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ButterflyBlood

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124. The First and Fourteenth amendments don't prohibit discrimination by private individuals

Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:19 AM

Mar 2013

The First Amendment just says Congress can make no law restricting or endorsing religious practice. That has nothing to do with an individual disliking or mocking religious practice. The Fourteenth Amendment just states conditions on which a person may not be denied citizenship or the right to vote. Which has nothing to do with banning private discrimination.

Of course individual laws in almost all states do prohibit religious discrimination, but that has nothing to do with the Constitution, and "Fuck the Catholic Church" is not a discriminatory statement. Nor any more offensive to me than "Fuck the Church of Scientology" is.

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Ya know, I'd rather have all the catholic bashers leave than the catholics [View all] quinnox Mar 2013 OP

I think they should both stay. But put each other on Ignore. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #1

How many times? brush Mar 2013 #105

No one has to leave RobertEarl Mar 2013 #2

not the only lame ones PatrynXX Mar 2013 #23

Come again? hrmjustin Mar 2013 #26

Heh RobertEarl Mar 2013 #32

I agree with you that Jesus is angry at those who covered up and committed crimes against children. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #35

I'm a white male. So are the KKK RobertEarl Mar 2013 #42

The KKK is an evil org. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #51

I would re think that comparison. zeemike Mar 2013 #52

It was no comparison RobertEarl Mar 2013 #56

I disagree. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #63

You are right RobertEarl Mar 2013 #75

Poor decisions by the Church leadership no more represent... Beartracks Mar 2013 #71

Well sure it does... zeemike Mar 2013 #78

You may be right about the KKK RobertEarl Mar 2013 #87

I bow to a Woman. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #93

That's what I find odd about Catholics and others RobertEarl Mar 2013 #96

Ok I understand your point. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #97

I'll have to ask Jesus himself... RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #82

Was that meant as a joke? hrmjustin Mar 2013 #86

No RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #88

LMAO!!! hrmjustin Mar 2013 #90

that's not what people are reacting to BainsBane Mar 2013 #74

What does this mean? RobertEarl Mar 2013 #79

Read the threads BainsBane Mar 2013 #81

Were those posts alerted on? RobertEarl Mar 2013 #92

Yes BainsBane Mar 2013 #95

Religion is a choice. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #130

Yes, I understand you see it that way BainsBane Mar 2013 #131

Very well said. Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #132

Thanks BainsBane Mar 2013 #133

I totally understand what you mean Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #134

I dunno if Jesus is shaking his head... RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #80

Amen (pun intended)....from a non-Christian agnostic. abq e streeter Mar 2013 #3

I know you miss meta sharp_stick Mar 2013 #4

Did something happen to meta? dkf Mar 2013 #67

Why should anyone leave? Fumesucker Mar 2013 #5

heh quinnox Mar 2013 #8

It's more than hurt feelings. CBHagman Mar 2013 #16

The only community standards are those a jury votes to uphold Fumesucker Mar 2013 #20

as an open minded person the PatrynXX Mar 2013 #24

so you're letting "the man" make the decisions for you snooper2 Mar 2013 #30

The community standards are posted on the site. CBHagman Mar 2013 #43

Meh, I'm a sixtysomething white male who lives in the deep South Fumesucker Mar 2013 #54

I'd rather forum hosts would lock non-GD posts. progressoid Mar 2013 #6

But it is called general discussion MattBaggins Mar 2013 #12

General Discussion Statment of Purpose..."No whining about DU" progressoid Mar 2013 #13

wouldn't that make DU disappear? MattBaggins Mar 2013 #14

LOL! reformist2 Mar 2013 #136

You're whining too pintobean Mar 2013 #21

I know! progressoid Mar 2013 #22

They tried a system for a few months Nevernose Mar 2013 #70

I don't even remember that! Like listing an item in two eBay categories. :-) gateley Mar 2013 #108

OP not helpful. Hissyspit Mar 2013 #7

Everyone can stay as long as they admit that I'm always right. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #9

lol quinnox Mar 2013 #10

Only if we can send the MRA goons with them. MattBaggins Mar 2013 #11

It looks like everyone is packing their bags. defacto7 Mar 2013 #46

Just curious why you think either group would have to leave? EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2013 #15

It/ getting well over the top nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #17

I disagree, who has been forced out bysundown? rustydog Mar 2013 #18

Here nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #19

Really? dsc Mar 2013 #33

No, unless the authors s the pope nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #34

well I'll tell you what dsc Mar 2013 #39

Although I don't always agree with the way you communicate your point defacto7 Mar 2013 #50

We seem to know so little about history. zeemike Mar 2013 #69

again the problem isn't that they say they have been persecuted dsc Mar 2013 #77

Who said that? zeemike Mar 2013 #85

the title of the book is the last acceptable persecution dsc Mar 2013 #89

I guess I read English different than you zeemike Mar 2013 #94

Here us the tittle nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #117

first of all I am 45 dsc Mar 2013 #119

Academics do that regularly nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #120

fine dsc Mar 2013 #122

None of us is saying you are having it easier or harder nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #123

In 29 States it is perfectly legal to discriminate against LGBT people in employment and housing. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #140

You know what is hysterical.... nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #141

Please point to me how Catholics are persecuted and discriminated against in the modern day US ButterflyBlood Mar 2013 #126

it is completely ridiculous Skittles Mar 2013 #62

When was the last time a council of female atheists MattBaggins Mar 2013 #47

for some every response to a defense roguevalley Mar 2013 #29

Meh. GodlessBiker Mar 2013 #25

This explains the hostility to feminists. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #27

I say we have a simple test.. snooper2 Mar 2013 #28

Sure, keep the self deluded, and ditch the realists... truebrit71 Mar 2013 #31

Science will fly you to the moon, religion will fly you into buildings. Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #36

ignore is your friend.... madrchsod Mar 2013 #37

That offends me MattBaggins Mar 2013 #48

Needs some context. Really don�t know what your complaint is, 20score Mar 2013 #38

There's a huge ongoing war defacto7 Mar 2013 #57

A Catholic wanting to banish non-Catholics. Apophis Mar 2013 #40

The anti-Catholic posts are consuming a lot of energy... CBHagman Mar 2013 #41

We should be tolerant of religion or one's desire not to participate. Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #44

I don't want to bash any religion, everyone has a right to their own beliefs mountain grammy Mar 2013 #45

I'm with you grammy. defacto7 Mar 2013 #58

Hear, hear. Rozlee Mar 2013 #73

well said. mountain grammy Mar 2013 #100

And I will bash ALL religions, RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #84

So what? D23MIURG23 Mar 2013 #49

I still hold a grudge lindysalsagal Mar 2013 #53

"The annoyance might come from the annoyed-person's doubts. " defacto7 Mar 2013 #60

I like the part that God is a male bipod who looks like me (except for the invisible part). AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #64

You hold a grudge over 500 year-old events, and you think people have doubts about cordelia Mar 2013 #68

I hereby nominate cordelia for Lord Head Magistrate of the Spelling Police. lindysalsagal Mar 2013 #146

Don't hold your breath skepticscott Mar 2013 #55

Have you every heard of changing the church from within. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #66

Nobody has been "bullied" skepticscott Mar 2013 #142

There is a difference in saying the church is wrong here and here with I as a christian do all the hrmjustin Mar 2013 #143

This site has a real problem with anti-Catholicism and anti-religion sentiment in general. nt SylviaD Mar 2013 #59

Well if this is a persecution contest, JEB Mar 2013 #98

Is this similar to that ridiculous pasta monster? Its not funny, nor is that. n/t SylviaD Mar 2013 #144

How about banning JEB Mar 2013 #145

why does anyone have to leave? Skittles Mar 2013 #61

DU is supposed to be a place where like-minded Democrats can discuss issues of interest to LibDemAlways Mar 2013 #65

I agree because I despise bigotry BainsBane Mar 2013 #72

Bigotry of GOP supporters? n-t Logical Mar 2013 #99

Perhaps you can point me to the part of the constitution BainsBane Mar 2013 #102

Really? Disliking religous groups is banned in the constitution??? n-t Logical Mar 2013 #106

discrimination is BainsBane Mar 2013 #110

So your argument is posts on the DU are breaking laws? n-t Logical Mar 2013 #111

Try rereading BainsBane Mar 2013 #112

I think you are exaggerating. But pretty sure you realize it. n-t Logical Mar 2013 #113

no BainsBane Mar 2013 #115

Lol, you bring up your hatred of bigots then realize the.... Logical Mar 2013 #135

The First and Fourteenth amendments don't prohibit discrimination by private individuals ButterflyBlood Mar 2013 #124

why is reading so difficult? BainsBane Mar 2013 #125

actually religious discrimination is banned by federal law dsc Mar 2013 #127

True but federal statute is not the same as the Constitution ButterflyBlood Mar 2013 #128

I'd rather have thoughtful discussion and debate from both sides NYC Liberal Mar 2013 #76

People should let others live their lives AAO Mar 2013 #83

Is it considered "bashing" to want them to put their money where their mouth is? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #91

amen! Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #101

Thank you.nt Cleita Mar 2013 #103

Wow is DU turning right or something? alp227 Mar 2013 #104

"Sacred Cows make the best hamburger." Mark Twain Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #107

LOL! I love it. nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #121

Good grief. Why are you trying to fan the flames? nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #109

Because Meta is gone? Puglover Mar 2013 #137

Can they take the anti-Semites and thier buddies with them?! Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #114

Too fucking bad. LeftyMom Mar 2013 #116

for once datasuspect Mar 2013 #139

My mother suffered physical & emotional abuse from nuns at the Indian School catbyte Mar 2013 #118

Me too. nt Thegonagle Mar 2013 #129

no one has to leave. What a bunch of nonsense. bowens43 Mar 2013 #138