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In reply to the discussion: Making Porn hurts like hell [View all]ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)71. If we change shame based exploitative sexuality that to much porn is about
We could change porn. Don't ask---completely different topic. And no, there's nothing benevolent about the porn industry. It's a huge multi-billion dollar industry.
However, sex workers should be as protected, as any other worker should be. I found this interesting;
Porn industry threatens to leave Los Angeles
Los Angeles voted Tuesday to protect its porn stars, but the county has no means of protection from the runaway production that the adult film industry is now threatening.
Measure B, a law requiring condom use and health permits for all porn shoots within Los Angeles County, which includes the so-called pornography capital of the world the San Fernando Valley passed with nearly 56-percent support on Tuesday.
But according to Variety, the passage of Measure B could rub out what's left of L.A.'s $1 billion porn biz, as producers from industry goliath Vivid Entertainment on down are already planning to flee the county, where an estimated 10,000 people are employed making 8 percent of the world's adult films.
The problem is that the way the law is written, we're considered to basically be a hospital where people have to wear gloves and masks, Steve Hirsch, founder and co-chairman of Vivid, the largest producer and distributor of porn in Los Angeles told Variety.
Hirsch said his company has plans to move production to another county in California, rather than out of state. Apart from California, New Hampshire is the only other state where pornography shoots are legal. Variety reports Vivid has about 100 employees and produces about 60 films per year at budgets typically ranging from $50,000 to $300,000 and from 10 to 40 people employed per shoot.
http://www.kpbs.org/news/2013/jan/15/porn-industry-turned-off-by-la-mandate-for/
And this is fucked up, because AIM did good work
This system has resulted in low rates of HIV transmission, and hence low rates of infection, among erotic actors: reportedly, not a single HIV test in an active adult industry performer had been positive in the four-year period prior to 2004.
It was in 2004 that AIM assisted in the sex-film-industry shutdown, a quarantine that lasted fewer than 60 days. A male performer, Darren James, had tested positive for HIV in April and, to prevent another HIV outbreak, an urgent search was initiated for his potentially infected partners. A total of four more performers, Bianca Biaggi, Jessica Dee, Lara Roxx, and Miss Arroyo were diagnosed with the virus by the end of the testing rounds, including one unrelated case in New York.James had apparently had contact with 12 women since his initial negative HIV test in March upon his return from a Brazilian film shoot.
In 2009, the Los Angeles Public Health department and the Los Angeles Times claimed that there were 16 unreported cases of HIV among adult film actors.AIM Health Care Foundation reported that these cases were actually members of the general public or people applying to work in the adult film industry that had not yet actually worked in films due to their initial test being positive.
On October 12, 2010, the Foundation reported that an actor or actress have been infected with HIV. The name and gender of the person was not released to the public.Vivid Entertainment and Wicked Pictures shut down porn production temporarily to avoid spreading of the virus. Although Wicked Pictures has a mandatory condom policy, the company is shutting down to wait for the quarantine list.
Patient database breach
AIM Medical's patient database is presumably the source of a massive 2011 data leak containing the confidential personal information, including the real names of over 12,000 pornographic actors, and the results of their STD tests.Compromised patient information is posted on the controversial website Porn Wikileaks.
AIM closed its offices and filed for bankruptcy in May 2011. A privacy lawsuit challenging AIM's handling of the patient records in light of Porn Wikileaks was the last straw for the clinic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Industry_Medical_Health_Care_Foundation
It was in 2004 that AIM assisted in the sex-film-industry shutdown, a quarantine that lasted fewer than 60 days. A male performer, Darren James, had tested positive for HIV in April and, to prevent another HIV outbreak, an urgent search was initiated for his potentially infected partners. A total of four more performers, Bianca Biaggi, Jessica Dee, Lara Roxx, and Miss Arroyo were diagnosed with the virus by the end of the testing rounds, including one unrelated case in New York.James had apparently had contact with 12 women since his initial negative HIV test in March upon his return from a Brazilian film shoot.
In 2009, the Los Angeles Public Health department and the Los Angeles Times claimed that there were 16 unreported cases of HIV among adult film actors.AIM Health Care Foundation reported that these cases were actually members of the general public or people applying to work in the adult film industry that had not yet actually worked in films due to their initial test being positive.
On October 12, 2010, the Foundation reported that an actor or actress have been infected with HIV. The name and gender of the person was not released to the public.Vivid Entertainment and Wicked Pictures shut down porn production temporarily to avoid spreading of the virus. Although Wicked Pictures has a mandatory condom policy, the company is shutting down to wait for the quarantine list.
Patient database breach
AIM Medical's patient database is presumably the source of a massive 2011 data leak containing the confidential personal information, including the real names of over 12,000 pornographic actors, and the results of their STD tests.Compromised patient information is posted on the controversial website Porn Wikileaks.
AIM closed its offices and filed for bankruptcy in May 2011. A privacy lawsuit challenging AIM's handling of the patient records in light of Porn Wikileaks was the last straw for the clinic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Industry_Medical_Health_Care_Foundation
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It's not to blame for everything, but the kind of stuff described in the article
geek tragedy
Mar 2013
#22
no. he has made clear the last couple day, there is not much concern for womens issues.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#13
i didnt say anything about evil, but then you knew that, simply reading my post. nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#32
why no consideration fro a porn worker, but for a coal worker? what are you saying? nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#33
You're the one attacking. Guess people who are having their salaries cut shouldn't complain either.
devilgrrl
Mar 2013
#172
I have not seen any posts regarding prostitution, so I can't answer your question.
devilgrrl
Mar 2013
#184
there was a time they were little girls , little innocent girls with fathers, they grew up
4 t 4
Mar 2013
#199
Well, sure. Because most women in porn have tons of other options. They are really likely
Squinch
Mar 2013
#131
Because of all the corporate training we get against electrocution and arc flash:
Kolesar
Mar 2013
#89
Well there has to be that one moment when some dude says "will you do this for $1000"?
Nye Bevan
Mar 2013
#40
I believe the poster was making the clear implication that pornography is rarely a choice
LanternWaste
Mar 2013
#173
And the enjoyment of watching it, when we all know it would hurt like hell, is not at all twisted.
Squinch
Mar 2013
#132
The kind of "progressive" who thinks being "progressive" means telling consenting adults what they
EOTE
Mar 2013
#95
Dishonest talking point. No one is proposing banning the possession of pornography.
geek tragedy
Mar 2013
#96
I'm not asking anyone to approve of porn, but to say that there are none here calling for the
EOTE
Mar 2013
#99
I'm gonna guess you don't have a link to this big movement here to ban porn.
geek tragedy
Mar 2013
#103
Nope, your reading skills haven't improved in the past 10 minutes. I'd suggest a bit more time.
EOTE
Mar 2013
#128
I don't see any call to ban porn in post #5. What makes you think this is a call to ban porn?
Squinch
Mar 2013
#144
At no point in that example did she even come close to calling for a ban on porn. I am not
Squinch
Mar 2013
#150
Don't know why you think she thinks a ban on porn would be great, because she never said that.
Squinch
Mar 2013
#152
She's responding to a post about pornography being banned in Iceland, are you unaware of this?
EOTE
Mar 2013
#155
No, that's not what she's saying. And you are right. If the examples are instances of you divining
Squinch
Mar 2013
#156
Uh huh. And calling for a ban of "commercial porn" is not the same thing as calling for banning
EOTE
Mar 2013
#179
"Consenting adults" make most of our electronics in slave labor conditions.
riderinthestorm
Mar 2013
#100
Your the one who made the slam about "authoritarians" and "consenting adults"
riderinthestorm
Mar 2013
#107
My issue with this are those who try to shut down discussion of the painful realities
riderinthestorm
Mar 2013
#127
I have no issues with those who want to discuss any realities, painful or otherwise.
EOTE
Mar 2013
#129
when you can tell me what woman men are getting off on are willing, which are forced thru sex slaves
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#108
And how cute that you think providing a link to a google search is evidence of anything.
EOTE
Mar 2013
#113
you denying that there is a huge problem with sex slaves in the porn world of the net?
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#116
this is the porn that all the men getting off on are watching? good dodge. still leaves sex slavery
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#123
I know. That you could be so incredibly callous for fast food workers is very troubling.
EOTE
Mar 2013
#121
Those who give a fuck what other consenting adults do are one authoritarian demographic.
EOTE
Mar 2013
#180
Lets ban porn then, I'm sure the cartels that will step in to fill the void will improve conditions.
Kurska
Mar 2013
#38
If a woman wants to do this, would it be "benevolent sexism" to try to stop her, for her own good?
Nye Bevan
Mar 2013
#39
Banning porn is not likely workable, due to the Internet, lack of justiciable standards etc.
geek tragedy
Mar 2013
#41
No, I fully support that. Mandatory regular STD checks for everyone involved, for one thing (nt)
Nye Bevan
Mar 2013
#47
Well cry me a fucking river, I'd rather dig a fucking ditch! Find something else to do.
lonestarnot
Mar 2013
#44
wow with all the disrespectful posts on here I'm wondering if some here on DU secretly think
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#67
What is the significance of that to you? I don't understand what you are getting at.
Squinch
Mar 2013
#206
This is a deeply flawed study, with a small sample of self-selected participants
riderinthestorm
Mar 2013
#216
a regulated legal career that drags down and drives their underground side into baby raper films
Sunlei
Mar 2013
#70
Of course it does. However porn is a symptom, not the disease. In the Chomsky interview posted
Egalitarian Thug
Mar 2013
#85
I guess not too many in the thread managed to read the last paragraph.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#86
Most people who turn their hobby into a career end up at least somewhat disillusioned
Fumesucker
Mar 2013
#87
Its always been hard for me to understand how anyone can watch porn and ignore the actors' real pain
riderinthestorm
Mar 2013
#93
I'm concerned about the sadism in pro sports like football. Its bad for our society
riderinthestorm
Mar 2013
#194
I disagree 100%. DUers always "worry" about low wage workers and the "pain" of their lives
riderinthestorm
Mar 2013
#208
Noted that you didn't address any of my points, only deflected to arguments I didn't make
riderinthestorm
Mar 2013
#213
I have addressed your point, and so have a thousand other threads. You have chosen to NOT see them
riderinthestorm
Mar 2013
#221
Because THERE ARE FEW other JOBS for regular, non-college-degreed---and even then---people.
WinkyDink
Mar 2013
#135
The money is good. Many have Student loans and other debt that it pays off.
Knightraven
Mar 2013
#230