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Warren DeMontague

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46. Interesting analysis, especially since I think television right now is producing some amazing stuff.

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 11:51 AM

Mar 2013

I remember when TV was uniformly formulaic drivel. Okay, PBS did some good stuff occasionally.. Remember "Cosmos"? That was groundbreaking because Carl Sagan actually put real science out there and didn't pull any punches. It was great, but it was unusual.

Now, you have Stephen Hawking and Neal DeGrasse Tyson and Brian Greene and that hot British Rock Star Science dude and the rest of them battling it out, to tell you about M-String Theory and Quantum Physics and the rest.

Oh, that's just the science channel, you say. What about the sewer-spawned filth that is produced under the auspices of "fictional drama"....

Well, okay. Breaking Bad. Mad Men. The Walking Dead, on AMC. Game of Thrones, Girls, etc. on HBO. Heavens, yes, there is some sex and violence on cable, but there is also some damn fine narrative storytelling going on.

Television is WAY better than it used to be. In fact, tv and movies have switched places, where movies are overwhelmingly formulaic shlock and tv is where the creative interesting risk-taking and artistry goes on.

Is there crap on TV? "Bridezillas" and "Jersey Shore"? Sure. But that's why God created the channel changer.

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Interesting analysis, especially since I think television right now is producing some amazing stuff. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #46

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