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markpkessinger

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25. Thank you from a fellow Episcopalian!

Reply to Lydia Leftcoast (Reply #22)

Thu Mar 21, 2013, 06:17 PM

Mar 2013

And you're quite right: the fact that the laity have a voice has been crucial to this process. But as I pointed out in another thread to a Roman Catholic who said he wished to stay behind to be a "force for good," if I were a Roman Catholic, I would certainly be asking myself how much of a "force for good" I could realistically be in a church that gives the laity no voice whatsoever in church governance.

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How are you going to fix the Catholic Church? Or any church for that matter? [View all] Bradical79 Mar 2013 OP

Seriously, to the extent that organized criminal behaviour can be shown to violate the RICO AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #1

I wish I could find it. There was a fantastic thread started by a Catholic who liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #2

Exactly... vi5 Mar 2013 #3

With all due respect, the RCC must change, and its leaders know it. Laelth Mar 2013 #4

A lovely hope, but the fact is Francis speaks horrible verbiage against gay people and our rights Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #5

Assuming you are right ... Laelth Mar 2013 #6

Pay attention to how much talk there is about the Global South JVS Mar 2013 #12

Married priests might get the contraception rule changed too muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #14

But what I don't get.... vi5 Mar 2013 #24

That describes my parents as well Marrah_G Mar 2013 #21

When I was a kid, we were taught that the Catholic Church was the only true church and that everyone hedgehog Mar 2013 #7

Smile. Nice way of putting it. Laelth Mar 2013 #8

No, miracles do not happen. Zoeisright Mar 2013 #9

Zoeisright .. I think you will like this ... just for chuckles: Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #11

I would refer you to the accounts of the miracle of the Loaves and Fishes hedgehog Mar 2013 #15

"No, miracles do not happen." Sounds like corneliamcgillicutty Mar 2013 #30

I'm not seeing the "miracle" you're refering too. -nt Bradical79 Mar 2013 #33

this isn't only about the Catholic church olddots Mar 2013 #10

I had a discussion with a christian church goer (not a Catholic) at the gym Cleita Mar 2013 #13

I agree RainDog Mar 2013 #17

Another way to put it markpkessinger Mar 2013 #27

I'm not against religious communities doing charity. I dislike them getting Cleita Mar 2013 #31

Same as any effort to change any large organization: grass roots organization from the ground up. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #16

+1 MissMarple Mar 2013 #20

yes you were the one. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #28

Sounds good, are parish councils common? Bradical79 Mar 2013 #34

Lights will guide it home, and ignite it's bones, and I will try to fix it???? HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #18

Organizations and governments all have their ups and downs. MissMarple Mar 2013 #19

The Episcopalians have made major changes in response to grassroots movements Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #22

Thank you from a fellow Episcopalian! markpkessinger Mar 2013 #25

The Catholic Church in the US is not monolithic caraher Mar 2013 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author BigDemVoter Mar 2013 #26

Be careful about assuming all churches are like the Roman Catholic Church markpkessinger Mar 2013 #29

Yes, I'm aware that not all churches are like the Roman Catholic Church Bradical79 Mar 2013 #32

It takes alot of work over many years quaker bill Mar 2013 #35

How are you going to change the country? Got a plan? Huhdoyadoya? DirkGently Mar 2013 #36