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TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
14. I think the concepts of news has become so lost and distorted that we haven't a clue
Sat Mar 23, 2013, 04:48 PM
Mar 2013

What you describe is a balancing of bias not even an effort toward objectivity, reporting of observation, and/or fact finding.

It seems to me you have the good sense to know that FOX is bullshit but still couldn't escape the gravity well of their "Fair and Balanced" nonsense and worse have swallowed that punditry is reasonable substitute for reporting. I'm fine with punditry but that shit is for digesting and debating information rather than disseminating it. By allowing all information to come from editorial and editorial from second hand and consequentially filter and controlled sources.

MSNBC is an incorrect answer to the question because the level of partisan balance in talking heads editorializing and/or debating isn't meaningful to objectivity, subject control, and reporting of facts.

If the question was where can I find a balance of beltway partisan opinion if I watch it from 5am-11pm, you'd have a compelling answer.

The meat of the question to use a sports metaphor is where can I find play by play that isn't dominated by the color commentary from wherever along the spectrum. The substance of your answer was that MSNBC has the best balance of commentary though I'll agree that Hall and a few other spots actually lean toward actual news reporting better than most but suffer from pretty much reporting opinions in a balanced fashion because of the big fundamental flaw of little to no reporting.

Maddow is excellent at digging into issues and giving quality editorial that makes facts digestible but the show by nature is not real time world events oriented, it is a political program not geared to presenting the facts before they drive agenda.

I think the best answer is there isn't any and one must actively seek information and dig and mine it from a broad set of sources and then you still will have to rely heavily on logic, discernment, and knowledge to filter it all out.
We are functioning in a corporate dominated system of propaganda and opinion shaping, there is little to no effort being made to inform the populace and some of what is there is a backstop to cope with the reality that information undesirable to that system surfaces and that everyone isn't going to swallow whatever they are fed so they must be controlled and coped with while maintaining the internal consistency of the overall agenda.

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Fox news? quinnox Mar 2013 #1
BBC rdharma Mar 2013 #2
Yeah, BBC is great LittleBlue Mar 2013 #7
Yes.. MSNBC. aaaaaa5a Mar 2013 #3
NBC fired Donahue for being anti-war, so fuck them and their fairness. Whisp Mar 2013 #5
I think the concepts of news has become so lost and distorted that we haven't a clue TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #14
TYT theaocp Mar 2013 #4
TYT And Democracy Now With Amy Goodman WillyT Mar 2013 #9
Democracy Now! ananda Mar 2013 #13
I think that if a networks states what its content will be about then it is unbias. L0oniX Mar 2013 #6
DW.de rdharma Mar 2013 #8
"It really makes one weary." ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #10
MSNBC Zax2me Mar 2013 #11
the bias is generic.... pretzel4gore Mar 2013 #12
"Which Carter probably won, btw" - Huh? You're saying Carter probably won in 1980? TimberValley Mar 2013 #16
they, the rulers, lie so easy pretzel4gore Mar 2013 #18
So if Carter "probably won" in 1980........ TimberValley Mar 2013 #19
None. CalFresh Mar 2013 #15
NPR early morning news program is broad and thorough Hekate Mar 2013 #17
Nope. I'd love to find one too. idwiyo Mar 2013 #20
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