Pit bull/Pit bull mixes kill toddler.

[Demo_Chris]

41. In many respects the entire "debate" is ludicrous

As I said in a previous post, it's like the people who deny evolution or any other basic observable and documented fact. And the same people who assert that there is no difference between, say, a Golden Retriever and a Rott -- they're both just doggies dontcha know -- don't have the slightest problem accepting the difference between a border collie and a poodle when it comes to herding animals. Apparently genetics works when it comes to one type of working dog, but not the other.

That said, I am not bothered by the existence of these animals. I am bothered by the owners in denial. A Pit owner who said, "Yeah, they're dangerous. That's why I do the following things..." would earn no complaint from me.

This discussion is not confined to this site though. For a while I posted on a very active dog forum, and if you think it's bad here you wouldn't believe the crap some of them posted there. Forget debating whether or not a breed was dangerous, there were quite a few there who believed that disciplining and controlling your dog at all was bordering on cruelty -- apparently this stiffled their spirit or some such nonsense. People who owned dogs would often register to ask questions, and the advise from this faction was downright chilling. A question might be "My Doberman is growling at me and wont let me sleep on my bed!" And these fools would advise the pet owner to sleep on the couch.

I used to go there to discuss training, and there were some amazing people that posted there, but I finally just gave it up.