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Kalidurga

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39. THEY "earned" everything they have, without any kind of preferential treatment....
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 07:26 PM
Mar 2013

The problem is they think they have earned everything. But, most likely a privileged person was raised in a middle class or more home. Never had to worry about getting enough to eat or having clothing or getting school supplies. This is probably a white heterosexual male who didn't have to work his way through college, because he either got scholarships or his parents paid. Or he didn't have to bolt from home so student loans were sufficient to live on while going to school. So, getting a degree was more of a given than a heroic effort. Or it could be a white heterosexual woman who realizes she will need an education if she doesn't want to become dependent on other people for her financial well being. She isn't quite as privileged as her male counterpart, but she is very attractive and knows how to use that to open doors, even though she has the education and talent but it doesn't hurt to have a nice face and be in shape and good fashion sense.

On the other hand anyone not born into a family that can support them from cradle to getting through college is going to have a hard time. It doesn't really matter if they are male or female. But, in any situation it is harder if you are a woman especially if you end up pregnant and decide to keep the baby if you haven't finished college. Then even if you do finish college it's still very difficult to get established from going from nothing to having enough to start a family. So, being poor basically means not having kids until you are in your 30's if you want to make sure you are stable first. So there is that biological privilege that has rarely been addressed. Yet a lot of people get on their high horse and denounce people that have kids before they are stable never mind that might not come until their early 30's at the soonest.

What must be really scary is for people who look like they are privileged and they pass for it for most of their life. But, they are in the closet on some issue. They might be a gay football player. Or they might be an atheist and they realize that they will lose some people in their network if they come out. Or she might be a lesbian and she realizes on some level she will lose the "protection" of the patriarchy if she is comes out. I am sure there are lot of other scenarios where people hide who they are because they are aware that being different may have an economic price tag, not to mention a social one.

I don't think anyone is unaware of privilege. Some might not connect the dots. But, the movie The Family Stone, Meredith explains it pretty well at an uncomfortable dinner experience. The conversation was about being gay and how it's harder to be gay than straight. She had a point about privilege. Of course she was seen as being a bigot for pointing that out. I think she was a bigot, but for other reasons than that. But, I digress. You could play this game at home would it be easier to be gay or straight? Is it easier to be male or female? Is it easier to be black or white? How much harder is it to be handicapped than able bodied? The list could go on and on, but in each case you can see how a person's privilege could build up and how another's could drop to the point that their challenges may prove to be overwhelming. But, don't tell that to the straight white males, it might hurt their feelings.

I like kumbuya libodem Mar 2013 #1
People love drama, is why. I remember commenting on a forum once that if we didn't put our posts in freshwest Mar 2013 #13
We should all walk a mile in the other person's shoes libodem Mar 2013 #37
Maybe they feel like you're implying LittleBlue Mar 2013 #2
Usually, there are some underlying racist, sexist or homophobic issues. Alenne Mar 2013 #3
white privilege didnt help Abigail Fisher get in to college leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #4
You mean it didn't help her to get into UT/Austin. baldguy Mar 2013 #9
I think, perhaps, the reason may be The Straight Story Mar 2013 #5
when everyone feels like they're in prison.. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #6
Well said. freshwest Mar 2013 #14
The question is what do you expect from a person you think is privileged. dkf Mar 2013 #7
Not a fucking clue in the world. Warpy Mar 2013 #8
yep. \n Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #18
Perfectly said, Warpy. Evoman Mar 2013 #30
"If that is the intention, that person isn't worth talking to." just1voice Mar 2013 #10
Pointing Out The Privilege Leads To The Privilege Going Away - No One Likes Losing Privileges cantbeserious Mar 2013 #11
Some people are whiners. Others are paid to divert attention from issues, to reframe the issues. nt valerief Mar 2013 #12
It offends their sense of progressive enlightenment. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #15
I initially read that as "progressive entitlement" YoungDemCA Mar 2013 #16
Both. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #19
You may be adding salt to a still fresh wound. NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #17
we diagnose ,stereotype and cry out for identity . olddots Mar 2013 #20
K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #21
Pretty much at the same time it's used that way Major Nikon Mar 2013 #22
K&R Thank you so much for asking this and pointing this out Number23 Mar 2013 #23
Privilege, my ass. sibelian Mar 2013 #24
Good point made well Fumesucker Mar 2013 #27
This is the language problem also seen in "entitlements" perhaps. Robb Mar 2013 #34
You are as clueless as your posts would indicate. MattBaggins Apr 2013 #80
I need to think about this. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #83
Privilege = lowest difficulty setting eridani Mar 2013 #25
Wow, that is an easy to understand explanation. Jamastiene Mar 2013 #26
good link StrayKat Mar 2013 #29
It gets repeated around here at least once per month Major Nikon Mar 2013 #31
Hey, thanks StrayKat Mar 2013 #35
and what did the OP ask? hfojvt Mar 2013 #46
The gaming analogy points out that difficulty setting is not the only influence on status eridani Mar 2013 #49
Um... Tuesday, three weeks ago. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #28
That long ago? Major Nikon Mar 2013 #32
I'm not going to join in with this deliberately divisive OP designed to divide us. kestrel91316 Mar 2013 #33
I agree. 99Forever Mar 2013 #38
those people are not the ones who are privileged hfojvt Mar 2013 #47
Really? YoungDemCA Mar 2013 #41
Because it is nothing but racist filth. nt Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #36
THEY "earned" everything they have, without any kind of preferential treatment.... Kalidurga Mar 2013 #39
I think you post this to get someone upaloopa Mar 2013 #40
What I find fascinating about these white male privilege threads is Vinnie From Indy Mar 2013 #42
Why does anything have to be done? treestar Mar 2013 #48
I moved from the shithole known as Missouri to Texas ask me anything snooper2 Mar 2013 #43
What does fresh ham taste like? Will I like it? Squinch Mar 2013 #59
It's always been provocative by design. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #44
Thanks for the word salad. 99Forever Mar 2013 #50
What an insightful reply. eom Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #52
You get what you give bud. 99Forever Mar 2013 #53
Sorry, I 'gave' a reply to the OP. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #54
Your post made perfect sense to me. Squinch Mar 2013 #58
Yep.. 99Forever Apr 2013 #62
I understand that it's a limited focus discussion forum, not a Yahoo board. Gormy Cuss Apr 2013 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Apr 2013 #65
There seem to be people who can't understand abstract concepts treestar Mar 2013 #45
so they are idiots? hfojvt Mar 2013 #51
because it is a social concept treestar Apr 2013 #66
oh come on hfojvt Apr 2013 #82
Are white men the only ones that perpetuate white, male privilege? Vinnie From Indy Mar 2013 #57
no treestar Apr 2013 #67
That's not true, I have a family member who just *thrives* on confrontation Fumesucker Apr 2013 #72
But would she do a political act that put herself at risk? treestar Apr 2013 #73
I've seen her go up against the local politics when it's for her own benefit Fumesucker Apr 2013 #74
You're pretty good at this. I hope you stick around and post more. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #55
Too many people can't- and really don't want- to stop thinking about themselves. They are always #1 bettyellen Mar 2013 #56
Interesting how just being asked the question is getting some posters very very riled. Squinch Mar 2013 #60
It's interesting to see how they feel entitled to the inequality treestar Apr 2013 #68
Or my favorite: Squinch Apr 2013 #69
Same can be said for America in relation to the rest of the world The2ndWheel Apr 2013 #76
That's true. The "Greatest Nation" complacency is very threatened now, in a lot of areas. Squinch Apr 2013 #78
When did we all of sudden feel the need to demonize everybody on the planet? liberal_at_heart Apr 2013 #61
Is pointing out well documented privilege the same as demonizing? Squinch Apr 2013 #70
Who said they were demonized or responsible individually? treestar Apr 2013 #71
Pointing out the obvious is not demonizing people uponit7771 Apr 2013 #75
Free Republic? pauliedangerously Apr 2013 #64
About the Same time fredamae Apr 2013 #77
I can see this has already been debated in depth el_bryanto Apr 2013 #79
I only get defensive when it's not true. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #81
When you tell a below average income white person he's privileged, you sound silly. Bucky Apr 2013 #84
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