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Cid_B

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52. It's an inability to critically analyse a situation...

Fri Dec 16, 2011, 05:44 AM

Dec 2011

Sticking a teenager in a home doesn't suddenly put up a magical anti-hellfire shield.

If a father brought his son along on an armed bank robbery, it would be the fathers fault if the child was injured in a shootout.

Also, what message does that send?

"Dear assholes, you'd better have an innocent child with you at all times otherwise we are going to light your world up."

Lastly, as per an pro-AQAP source

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"His sadness reached its peak after the American planes assassinated his father," said Abdul Razzaq al Jamal, a Yemeni journalist from Al Wasat, according to a statement posted on jihadist forums that was translated by the SITE Intelligence Group. Jamal spent weeks with AQAP in the Zinjibar area and elsewhere in southern Yemen, and wrote articles that sympathized with the terror group's attempts to control the region.

"But when he said to the Emir [Leader] of the city of Azzam, 'I hope to attain martyrdom as my father attained it,' it did not come to his mind that this will happen, and just one day after he said it. This actually happened. The son joined the father in another American raid that came only two weeks apart from the one that assassinated his father," Jamal continued.

Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2011/12/anwar_al_awlakis_son.php#ixzz1gh2UpiVd

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Not a good idea to start a post by exculpating Anwar al-Awlaki Azathoth Dec 2011 #1

So you DON'T think a person has a right to a legal defense before being killed Bonobo Dec 2011 #5

Maybe because he was an enemy combatant working for Al-Qaeda? FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #8

Wow, shouldn't that be like judged by a trial or something??? Bonobo Dec 2011 #10

Sometimes criminals die in shootouts. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #13

What crime was the US-born teenager accused of? Cali_Democrat Dec 2011 #19

He was not just "US born". he was an American teenager. Bonobo Dec 2011 #22

these same actions by Bush = holy SHIT we would have gone nuts. hell, we did go nuts. piratefish08 Dec 2011 #49

The teenage son wasn't accused of a crime, just in the wrong place at the wrong time. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #39

Ahhh, so you think the death is less abhorrent and more acceptable for a democratic president EOTE Dec 2011 #67

An example of such a shootout here: Capitalocracy Dec 2011 #28

Do you extend the same logic to enemy soldiers in a war? Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author bowens43 Dec 2011 #53

An "enemy combatant" is a bu$h/Cheney invention to RC Dec 2011 #61

Funny how times change, governments change, policies change. LanternWaste Dec 2011 #74

Wait, this happened in Denver? boppers Dec 2011 #14

What the hell are you talking about? Azathoth Dec 2011 #15

No, he died because we really do not care much who else dies when we execute people because RC Dec 2011 #65

That was not such a situation treestar Dec 2011 #62

NO, the real issue is the fact we are even there in the first place. RC Dec 2011 #70

No, he is not. Do you realize what you just said?? A child can be killed because of something their sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #50

It's an inability to critically analyse a situation... Cid_B Dec 2011 #52

So a parent who brings his child to a warzone bears no responsibility? Azathoth Dec 2011 #54

Dump him! ProSense Dec 2011 #2

Ironically you are right. Bonobo Dec 2011 #4

Yup ProSense Dec 2011 #12

Poor people will die from lack of heating assistance. Probably old ones. Capitalocracy Dec 2011 #29

Yes ProSense Dec 2011 #37

Yeah, I don't get Ron Paul supporters, either. REP Dec 2011 #3

It's always good to see another person with sense that made the DU3 switch... Modern_Matthew Dec 2011 #6

Hmmm? ProSense Dec 2011 #16

Do you have any evidence the kid was the target geek tragedy Dec 2011 #7

Nope. Just that it would be an insane coincidence. Bonobo Dec 2011 #9

The father ran with self-described terrorists. So did the son. boppers Dec 2011 #17

The father was a US citizen. The son was a US citizen. No charges were leveled against either. Bonobo Dec 2011 #20

But they weren't the targets, they were at a top Al-Qaeda operatives house. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #21

Ha ha, bullshit mixed with speculation. Bonobo Dec 2011 #25

Uh, yeah no. It's not speculation. He was a wanted criminal on the run from authority. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #31

Some people love to argue for the sake of arguing joeglow3 Dec 2011 #68

You check the citizenship of people shooting at you? boppers Dec 2011 #55

Are you sure you are down with the idea of leaving Al Qaeda operatives alone? treestar Dec 2011 #63

A Yemeni judge already convicted him to death, he was on the run. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #18

OK, a "Yemenite" Court conviction has more weight... GReedDiamond Dec 2011 #23

Hundreds of Americans each year are sentenced in foreign courts and can't be helped by the U.S. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #27

And how many of them have subsequently... GReedDiamond Dec 2011 #30

*Yawn* FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #32

Yeah, your continued defense of the indefensible... GReedDiamond Dec 2011 #33

Nope, its just that yours is worn out. Can't muster the empathy for terrorists. Sorry. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #35

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #40

You're calling the wrong person a coward. Trust me. Still can't muster up the empathy for terrorists FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #45

He's giving you the benefit of the doubt by saying you're afraid of terrorists. Capitalocracy Dec 2011 #51

"Al Qaeda was essentially created by the CIA" boppers Dec 2011 #56

It had all happened in Yemen treestar Dec 2011 #64

LOL, it would be an insane coincidence that the son of an Al Qaeda operative would be in the house Azathoth Dec 2011 #24

It wasn't blunt. It was weak, late and murky. Bonobo Dec 2011 #26

Here ya go Azathoth Dec 2011 #34

Ha ha ha. Thanks for proving my point. Bonobo Dec 2011 #41

LOL I prove that you have no idea what you're talking about, so you just declare victory anyway Azathoth Dec 2011 #43

You cannot disguise your open contempt for Constitutional Rights. Bonobo Dec 2011 #46

You can't shout "fire" in a crowded theater Azathoth Dec 2011 #48

Typical of several of our more prolific DU thread starters. emulatorloo Dec 2011 #58

And who would our government apologize to? The wife of the Al-Qaeda member Anwar al-Awlaki? Tx4obama Dec 2011 #44

Quite a few probably did, thus the outrage at his doing what he said he'd do. joshcryer Dec 2011 #11

President Obama did NOT order the killing of a US teenager Tx4obama Dec 2011 #36

Ssssh! ProSense Dec 2011 #38

Bingo... SidDithers Dec 2011 #71

With the Iraq war ending, the manufactured outrage needs to be refocused. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #69

Anwar al-Awlaki's SON grew up OUTSIDE of The USA Tx4obama Dec 2011 #42

Aw-laki did too, mostly treestar Dec 2011 #66

Fringe overreaction once again. The Feinstein Amendment fixed the bill. Enough paranoia. RBInMaine Dec 2011 #47

people in this thread describing yemen as a war zone. . . themadstork Dec 2011 #59

And I wish people wouldmn't idol worship...you are totally joeybee12 Dec 2011 #60

Pffftttt.... SidDithers Dec 2011 #72

It's "to tread." n/t wryter2000 Dec 2011 #73