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17. This isn't about Obama.

Fri Apr 5, 2013, 01:24 PM

Apr 2013

That is what the one percent want us to talk about. They want to stir up defensive circling of Blue wagons,

Obama is temporary. This isn't about any single corporate-backed politician. It is about a monied elite purchasing into our government and using it to build a system that will protect and grow their wealth/power at our expense, long after Obama leaves office.

Ignore the bids to turn this discussion into a distracting flame war about one man. I am moving to threads with a more useful focus now.

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So President Obama kind of sucks, Huh? [View all] Bennyboy Apr 2013 OP

the Democrats are the ones that do the compromising Enrique Apr 2013 #1

you are being ridiculous. He's the most progressive President hfojvt Apr 2013 #2

Sure, if you all you care about is the single issue TM99 Apr 2013 #7

NDAA, ReAuthorizing Pat Act, Transparency fredamae Apr 2013 #28

So you are agreeing or disagreeing with me? TM99 Apr 2013 #31

I did vote for him twice fredamae Apr 2013 #32

We agree completely. TM99 Apr 2013 #41

It's a Bi-Partisan Trip fredamae Apr 2013 #45

I definitely agree with what you share here. TM99 Apr 2013 #68

More people need to fredamae Apr 2013 #71

That's the problem he was never the great progressive that everyone hoped for One of the 99 Apr 2013 #50

He is not a moderate. He is center-right. TM99 Apr 2013 #54

That's a low bar... YoungDemCA Apr 2013 #9

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #38

i can't tell if you are on drugs or not datasuspect Apr 2013 #12

bs...and you know it xiamiam Apr 2013 #13

I never agreed with them hfojvt Apr 2013 #16

So you are willing to settle for "most progressive"? Tell that crap to those living in their cars, rhett o rick Apr 2013 #23

what I am willing to do hfojvt Apr 2013 #33

Sorry, I have a chip on my shoulder and this is twice I missed the sarcasm. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #40

I see what you did there MNBrewer Apr 2013 #69

still plenty of time to get some war on. KG Apr 2013 #3

Another war and these become the good old days tblue Apr 2013 #26

No. Not at all. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #4

I hesitate to produce a response to this sharp_stick Apr 2013 #5

Well, he and his family are photogenic HERVEPA Apr 2013 #6

It's all so sad and painful Nite Owl Apr 2013 #8

I forgot the "Yet" Bennyboy Apr 2013 #24

Nice list. It is too bad Obama never did one good thing in his administration. Friggin' teabagger. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #10

That crystal ball has put in a lot of overtime under President Obama. Cracklin Charlie Apr 2013 #11

Indeed. It needs a nice, safe, warm, moist place. Someplace where the sun don't shine. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #14

You don't need a crystal ball to know that he'll approve Keystone. Marr Apr 2013 #42

You'll give me 10:1 odds, right? So, yeah. I'll bet $50, you put up $500. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #43

I am not a gambler so can someone answer my dumb question? Generic Other Apr 2013 #55

Because both parties understand that one outcome is ten times more likely. Marr Apr 2013 #57

Now why would you ask for 10:1 odds? Marr Apr 2013 #56

Oh. So you aren't so sure that Obama will sign and you are not willing to back up your bet. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #58

Ten times more certain than you are that he won't, apparently. Marr Apr 2013 #60

Okay, then it's a bet? (You seem to be playing both sides of the fence) Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #61

*I'm* playing both sides of the fence? Excuse me? Marr Apr 2013 #63

I don't think you understand this whole betting thing. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #64

I understand it perfectly well, thanks-- and again: Marr Apr 2013 #65

you can cross one off your list. He won't cut SS or Medicare OKNancy Apr 2013 #15

Then why propose it in the first place. dawg Apr 2013 #18

no, so he can say to the Repubs and the non-left populace OKNancy Apr 2013 #20

Vote Republican 2014!!! bvar22 Apr 2013 #22

Vote Democratic 2014 tridim Apr 2013 #27

He knows that, but ... dawg Apr 2013 #30

I believe that 3 Million is a radical Low Ball estimate. bvar22 Apr 2013 #34

Maybe so, but half a million is enough to slaughter us in the Congressional elections of 2014. dawg Apr 2013 #35

Who could have EVER predicted that in 2013, bvar22 Apr 2013 #39

Glenn Greenwald Did bobduca Apr 2013 #49

Certain segments of DU "threw him under the bus" MNBrewer Apr 2013 #70

In other words, the Republicans stick by their principles no matter what ... dawg Apr 2013 #29

If this defense is true he is the stupidest person alive cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #19

What happens when the GOP fredamae Apr 2013 #62

This isn't about Obama. woo me with science Apr 2013 #17

+1 deutsey Apr 2013 #21

THIS version doesn't. Too bad we're on v2.0 Glitterati Apr 2013 #25

Obama is between a rock and a hard place. And it is ALL our fault! Lady Freedom Returns Apr 2013 #36

We haven't shut up, Carolina Apr 2013 #48

And another thing... Carolina Apr 2013 #52

When you want to be a leader you lead, he is being led. gordianot Apr 2013 #53

Did "we" go silent? Or fredamae Apr 2013 #59

Please SOMEBODY make it stop. truedelphi Apr 2013 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author forestpath Apr 2013 #76

no he doesn't Liberal_in_LA Apr 2013 #37

Any problems with Obama and other Dems are probably your fault. gulliver Apr 2013 #44

apparently you missed the fact that we won the WH and Senate Carolina Apr 2013 #47

You and some others are under the mistaken OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #67

He sucked the first term,too Carolina Apr 2013 #46

No, the Republicans do treestar Apr 2013 #51

Nope, he doesn't. Too many accomplishments to list, really. NYC Liberal Apr 2013 #66

Real Nobel Peace prize winners use drones jsr Apr 2013 #72

The last time I had a real choice was the PA Democratic Primary in 2008. Demoiselle Apr 2013 #74

Like a Hoover. forestpath Apr 2013 #75

Drop the words "kind of" and you have it. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #77