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In reply to the discussion: With cuts to Social Security on the table, what will be the Democrat's campaign slogan for 2014? [View all]graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Nader is the common denominator.
2000 is the common denominator.
Because NO Bush and Gore weren't the same, though Nader said so a million times.
Denying that we are at we are at because of 2000 does not make it not true.
Cause and Effect= Nader threw the election, protest votes in 2010 gave us 5 draconian people or more including senators/governors that are the worst, and not seeing the light,
then doing the same the next time,
yeah, as Tommy Flannagan said "Yeah,That's the ticket". As it's future to the back.
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What would LBJ have done different than Richard Nixon did after 1968?
(answer-NOT let the Bush's rise to power in the first place).
If there is a machine to rage against, one should first accept what will be there the day after
and make sure all the T's are crossed the I's dotted.
Not to rage in 1968 only to
then rage again in 1980
only to then rage again in 2000
only to then rage again in 2010
Which part of the easy equation is not evident?
Or better yet, don't like Bill Clinton in 1992?
Then why did the second most liberal state in the nation kill the last hope for Jerry Brown and Jesse Jackson back in 1992?
Do like Bill Clinton after he won?
Then why rail that he wasn't able to vote far enough to the left for those to like him, because of all that went on before him from 1980 to 1992?
It's not like Bill Clinton let Reagan/Bush take power.
One should have been thankful enough that Bill had the biggest upset at that time of all time in 1992 and got 8 years where they threw everything at him.
So easy to see in retrospect as the same old is again happening in a much worse obstructionist government against the President, where the repubs are going to again have to drastically LOSE in 2014 and 2016 to get things to change in Congress.
Therefore the corrolation is
doing what was done in 2010 is NOT the way to get anything near what those complaining the loudest want, but they are playing that card again, and unfortunately, playing that card leads to a stacked deck against the change they themselves want.
(yes, I know not many want to hear this, it's easier to scream and shout and rail and rage against the system).
One thing forgotten YOU (proverbial you, not individual you) are the system you are raging against.
Liberals like me are suppose to be smart enough to see that simple truth. (I myself see it).
This is so Gorby all over again.