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graham4anything

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8. Protest votes caused all the problems. Effect=what those now are whining about.Nader
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 07:26 AM
Apr 2013

Nader is the common denominator.
2000 is the common denominator.

Because NO Bush and Gore weren't the same, though Nader said so a million times.
Denying that we are at we are at because of 2000 does not make it not true.

Cause and Effect= Nader threw the election, protest votes in 2010 gave us 5 draconian people or more including senators/governors that are the worst, and not seeing the light,
then doing the same the next time,

yeah, as Tommy Flannagan said "Yeah,That's the ticket". As it's future to the back.

dog
tail
tail
dog

or
What would LBJ have done different than Richard Nixon did after 1968?
(answer-NOT let the Bush's rise to power in the first place).

If there is a machine to rage against, one should first accept what will be there the day after
and make sure all the T's are crossed the I's dotted.

Not to rage in 1968 only to
then rage again in 1980
only to then rage again in 2000
only to then rage again in 2010

Which part of the easy equation is not evident?

Or better yet, don't like Bill Clinton in 1992?
Then why did the second most liberal state in the nation kill the last hope for Jerry Brown and Jesse Jackson back in 1992?
Do like Bill Clinton after he won?
Then why rail that he wasn't able to vote far enough to the left for those to like him, because of all that went on before him from 1980 to 1992?
It's not like Bill Clinton let Reagan/Bush take power.
One should have been thankful enough that Bill had the biggest upset at that time of all time in 1992 and got 8 years where they threw everything at him.

So easy to see in retrospect as the same old is again happening in a much worse obstructionist government against the President, where the repubs are going to again have to drastically LOSE in 2014 and 2016 to get things to change in Congress.

Therefore the corrolation is
doing what was done in 2010 is NOT the way to get anything near what those complaining the loudest want, but they are playing that card again, and unfortunately, playing that card leads to a stacked deck against the change they themselves want.

(yes, I know not many want to hear this, it's easier to scream and shout and rail and rage against the system).
One thing forgotten YOU (proverbial you, not individual you) are the system you are raging against.

Liberals like me are suppose to be smart enough to see that simple truth. (I myself see it).

This is so Gorby all over again.

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We pay the ramsom and help the kidnappers kill the hostage SoCalDem Apr 2013 #1
Vote for us: We'll mandate everyone to have insurance for everything, everywhere- forever? green for victory Apr 2013 #2
"Who the @#"& else ya gonna vote for, chumps?" MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #3
How did that Nader thingy work out in 2000? How did 2010 work out? It really is easy to see. graham4anything Apr 2013 #4
cause and effect lacking. aandegoons Apr 2013 #5
Protest votes caused all the problems. Effect=what those now are whining about.Nader graham4anything Apr 2013 #8
Again they did not. aandegoons Apr 2013 #9
And the wheels on the bus go round and round. Which came first? The Chicken or the Egg? graham4anything Apr 2013 #14
I like your last sentence, but would add; A Simple Game Apr 2013 #31
Exactly! .... a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush. meti57b Apr 2013 #6
Someone needs to teach the Democratic politicians that Fumesucker Apr 2013 #15
Yeah, there was that. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #23
Gore and loserman the DLC chumps sucked ass. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #44
Sure. They sucked so bad that they won. Only the Supremes disagreed n/t eridani Apr 2013 #49
A person who has won who allows the lose to get the office is a person who sucks. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #56
Really? I don't see gore's name on the list of presidents. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #58
You have a way with words. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #22
So, their slogan will remain unchanged. Le Taz Hot Apr 2013 #51
"With A Democratic Party Like This, Who Needs Republicans?" VOX Apr 2013 #7
That's my thought newfie11 Apr 2013 #17
There is a reason the GOP wanted to lose the last two presidential elections jsr Apr 2013 #59
Sure we are Corporate Toadies too at least we are not racists and bigots, Vote Dem14 UBEEDelusional Apr 2013 #10
+ 1 nt abelenkpe Apr 2013 #24
"C'mon. You didn't expect to live to 65 anyway, did you?" nt valerief Apr 2013 #11
same one for the last 30 years: We. suck. less. KG Apr 2013 #12
"Only Nixon could open China for business. Only Obama could starve Grandma to pay the debt we owe." leveymg Apr 2013 #13
The saddest part is, starve granny, torture her, even kill her and it won'y reduce any debt Dragonfli Apr 2013 #39
Something like "Vote for the Better Republicans". nt NorthCarolina Apr 2013 #16
How about "They would've cut 'em even more!"? nt Bonobo Apr 2013 #18
"It could be worse" Lasher Apr 2013 #19
"Hey, at least you aren't in an internment camp (yet)" n/t AndyA Apr 2013 #20
We'll screw you less? Rider3 Apr 2013 #21
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Guaranteed Not As Bad As Bat-Shit Crazy! truebluegreen Apr 2013 #27
Oops.. 99Forever Apr 2013 #32
Over 40? KILL YOURSELF NOW! elehhhhna Apr 2013 #28
Good Cop/Bad Cop Take it or Leave It 99Forever Apr 2013 #29
Cut to social security and raising the age on Medicare abelenkpe Apr 2013 #30
Yep....earn .25 percent and pay 5 percent more for things. zeemike Apr 2013 #38
Die FASTER Glitterati Apr 2013 #33
We'll starve them to death Glitterati Apr 2013 #34
President Obama is unpopular in most (R) districts madville Apr 2013 #35
Same great taste with only half the racism! Vinnie From Indy Apr 2013 #36
vote democratic ! SwampG8r Apr 2013 #37
"We fucked you dotymed Apr 2013 #40
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We want to cut SS! they only say no! Dragonfli Apr 2013 #42
Democrats: ''We screw you less than the other guy" CanonRay Apr 2013 #43
democrats--we stand for, we stand for, what was that again??????????????? dembotoz Apr 2013 #45
Please vote Republican in the mid term again. That is what he is doing. nt. eilen Apr 2013 #46
Taking care of the 1% is hard. Autumn Apr 2013 #47
Pretty simple once you remember Obama will not be running: JHB Apr 2013 #48
lol, big kr! HiPointDem Apr 2013 #50
Democrats, the other Republicans! bowens43 Apr 2013 #52
Very accurate description jsr Apr 2013 #62
Kidding aside, I no longer care. I'm tired of being lied to. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #53
I believe with people like Bernie Sanders, and perhaps some other progressives in Congress, this still_one Apr 2013 #54
No food on the table? Carve and trim Social Security! boston bean Apr 2013 #55
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This was done in 2009 treestar Apr 2013 #60
"I'm not with Stupid"? winter is coming Apr 2013 #61
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