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rmax

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16. Well, it's kind of a mix. Local laws restrict the cops and the "villians" have whatever.

Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:24 PM

Apr 2013

That's pretty much the case throughout the country. I know most have 12ga shotguns, but I don't know of any with autos. And a .38 is nothing up against a 45 Magnum, also available at your local gun shop, probably with a discount if you buy 40 rounds.

The Glock's are good, but not that practical in a fight. They don't fire fast enough and frankly aren't all that accurate, and they tend to jam. I've got a 20ga and that's a pretty nasty weapon, but only 2 cartridges to a clip. I've never had to fire it, fortunately.

And yes, in pretty much any city, the cops are outpowered by weaponry that is legal (THANK YOU NRA) for the public, but NOT legal for officials. So yes, they are outpowered, at a disadvantage, and get killed by psycopaths who don't mind to die.

The legality of things is completely opposite of what it should be. I'm not advocating a police state, but I would like our uniformed officers to at least have parity with what they are up against.

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What rank & file police officers think about gun-control [View all] Lurks Often Apr 2013 OP

Hmmm - the survey was completed from a police products commercial website. haele Apr 2013 #1

It matches other surveys Lurks Often Apr 2013 #2

The methodology is not concrete bossy22 Apr 2013 #8

That's an understatement. Gormy Cuss Apr 2013 #46

Sorry, bunch of gun porn at link. Hoyt Apr 2013 #3

No surprises for me. I know a few police officers. They're level-headed, intelligent people who... slackmaster Apr 2013 #4

Then, why to gungeoneers feel they need to arm up to match police? Hoyt Apr 2013 #5

Do you have evidence to support that assertion? bossy22 Apr 2013 #7

Which one? First one - go read gungeon, I think you are familiar with it. Hoyt Apr 2013 #9

I looked at the site- It is a police industry forum bossy22 Apr 2013 #11

And 80% admit to toting in public when off duty. It's biased in many aspects. Hoyt Apr 2013 #13

Many depts require their officers to carry when off duty. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #17

Yes. Another example of bias. Hoyt Apr 2013 #24

not bias, its an officer safety issue founded on past experience loli phabay Apr 2013 #67

Prove it. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #10

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Liberty = freedom of choice slackmaster Apr 2013 #62

Because it justifies their over-the-top militarization. nt Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #6

The ones I know (several) don't like being out gunned by nuts. rmax Apr 2013 #12

Where on earth do you live?!? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #14

Well, it's kind of a mix. Local laws restrict the cops and the "villians" have whatever. rmax Apr 2013 #16

Here in Portland... Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #18

They need those in Portland? Seriously? Busting up pot farms or something? rmax Apr 2013 #20

Seems a bit much to me, too. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #21

Glocks don't have balance - hence the lack of accuracy. They're throw-aways. rmax Apr 2013 #23

'Remmington' making a lot of handguns now, are they? jmg257 Apr 2013 #61

I don't think Remington... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #63

Glocks jam? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #29

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Well over a thousand rounds with my Model 19. No jams. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2013 #31

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I'm throwing the BS challenge flag sarisataka Apr 2013 #33

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Holy Crap! In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #36

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Do you really feel the need for that many weapons? In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #40

Thanks for answering the challenge sarisataka Apr 2013 #42

I don't understand your post. rrneck Apr 2013 #34

See post # 35! In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #37

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Well then, lets have a look... rrneck Apr 2013 #41

SorryI was not clear. I disagree with everything that was in the PPRed post. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #43

You seem very confused about numerous weapons, and police access to them. jmg257 Apr 2013 #59

Without crosstabs, this data is worthless... Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2013 #15

You may want to extend that thought process to it's conclusion: Lurks Often Apr 2013 #26

Wow. That's an impressive leap into illogic Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2013 #44

Where did you get that from? Lurks Often Apr 2013 #45

You must not live in a rural area... Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2013 #48

There are bad cops everywhere and Lurks Often Apr 2013 #50

OK Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2013 #64

I think you are seeing a causal link where none exists Lurks Often Apr 2013 #65

I see the link because you keep insisting that it's there.... Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2013 #68

No, my opinion is based on seeing these patterns Lurks Often Apr 2013 #69

He said, back-pedaling all the way... Jeff In Milwaukee Apr 2013 #70

Even with crosstabs it's probably meaningless. Gormy Cuss Apr 2013 #47

This sample is apparently full of assholes and psychopaths. Robb Apr 2013 #19

So what you are saying that Lurks Often Apr 2013 #25

I'll take that as a "yes." Robb Apr 2013 #27

I'm glad we agree that your post is Lurks Often Apr 2013 #28

Of those that take an interest in politics...most rank/file police officers are conservative morons. AgainsttheCrown Apr 2013 #22

I need a shower... 99Forever Apr 2013 #49

Your overwhelming display of logic has won me over!!!!! Lurks Often Apr 2013 #51

Why would I care what you think? 99Forever Apr 2013 #52

So you have nothing useful to contribute to the discussion Lurks Often Apr 2013 #60

Feel better now? Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #53

Ahhh gee... 99Forever Apr 2013 #55

Oooh! Bolded and underlined means it's MORE TRUER!! Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #56

Get it straight lady.. 99Forever Apr 2013 #57

Continuing to employ an insulting term isn't "getting it straight." Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #58

The people at police one are horrible. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #66