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elleng

(136,430 posts)
14. Thanks, jazzimov, and welcome.
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 09:31 PM
Apr 2013

Bucky posted this. May be of interest to some:

'You should learn a lot about Charles-Louis, Baron de Brede et Montesquieu (Chucky for short). In your civics class, he's taught as the guy who identified the three basic functions of government--legislative, executive, and judicial--and who had a powerful pull on the Founding Conventioneers in Philadelphia in 1787. He's more important for the Constitution than John Locke is. Locke more inspired the Declaration, but it was Chucky who inspired both the three branches scheme and laid the philosophical groundwork for maintaining a federal, instead of a national, structure to the Old 13. However Chucky had some other, more pertinent observations about how men & their governments interact. He identified the governments of the world as falling into three types: Republic, Monarchy, or Despotism. Yes, he always thought in threes. Like any Frenchman, he spent a good deal of time worrying about how size matters. And Chucky didn't think a country, like ours, nearly the size of a continent was quite suited for republicanism. There are dangerous signs he was rights.

In his view, a true republic requires a public and culture that has a love of virtue, that is, a society in which people (particularly leaders) put their love of country and the welfare of the community above their own personal needs. Think about everything we revere George Washington for and now compare it to, say, Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell, that clown from Alaska, or Rand Paul. But this character must exist among a nation as well. When a people lose virtuousness, they begin to lose their republican form of government. We pause now for this important commercial message.'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2639097

We know. We've been here longer than you. Do you have anything to contribute? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #1
Propaganda. RC Apr 2013 #3
You've been POSTING longer than I. jazzimov Apr 2013 #7
You lurked for 10 years without a word? tkmorris Apr 2013 #9
'Everyone in sight?' elleng Apr 2013 #16
His OP was critical of DU. Itself. tkmorris Apr 2013 #19
He said this: elleng Apr 2013 #21
you're funny dlwickham Apr 2013 #52
I'm 'funny?' elleng Apr 2013 #55
No, it's not. But shouldn't it be? jazzimov Apr 2013 #58
Sorry, boguspotus Apr 2013 #22
Right. Thanks. elleng Apr 2013 #32
I lurked a lot here since the invasion of Iraq and did so ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2013 #42
Because nothing happened in 10 years worth posting on HangOnKids Apr 2013 #44
What is your point? jazzimov Apr 2013 #60
So when democratic politicians fail to uphold basic democratic ideals, what then? Scootaloo Apr 2013 #2
Agree rsmith6621 Apr 2013 #8
Agreed. I support policy. I do not worship. nt tsuki Apr 2013 #35
I support Democratic IDEALS tkmorris Apr 2013 #4
Anyone defending SS cuts is a DLC/Third Way/New Democrat/Neoliberal. Marr Apr 2013 #5
+1 forestpath Apr 2013 #6
Really? Are you sure? And are what you call "cuts" jazzimov Apr 2013 #10
Right. Thanks. elleng Apr 2013 #15
More chastising? HangOnKids Apr 2013 #48
It's funny when you lecture other posters about inappropriate board behaviour...nt SidDithers Apr 2013 #56
+1 magellan Apr 2013 #13
I don't think anyone here has advocated for SS cuts notadmblnd Apr 2013 #27
It is President Obama now, not Candidate Obama. Policies matter and we will not shut up. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #11
You know what is AWESOME about DU? Marrah_G Apr 2013 #12
Thanks, jazzimov, and welcome. elleng Apr 2013 #14
Dude, you've used about 6 months worth of posts and contributed nothing... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #17
In whose opinion? jazzimov Apr 2013 #25
What is this purity test you speak of? HangOnKids Apr 2013 #54
"Inform yourself." Many of us have informed ourselves. nt slipslidingaway Apr 2013 #18
Democrats that support Republican ideas deserve nothing but scorn. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #20
When did any Democrat support ENDING SS? jazzimov Apr 2013 #26
This chained CPI bullshit is the first step. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #43
There are no Democratic candidates because it is not election season. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #23
Well, ya know, if we're not conservative enough for you...no one is forcing you to stay. Zorra Apr 2013 #24
"90% of the trolls here are Third Way trolls," jazzimov Apr 2013 #31
You can't be this naive. MrSlayer Apr 2013 #46
Well, some people don't put on their thinking caps all the time frazzled Apr 2013 #28
That is so sad. This site used to be about jazzimov Apr 2013 #36
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Thank you for that informed, reasonable response. jazzimov Apr 2013 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #41
Jizzimov and Discharge. Someone needs to seek medical attention. nt NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #47
Ok That Just Made Me Laugh So Hard The Cat Jumped HangOnKids Apr 2013 #59
Inform yourself of this: winter is coming Apr 2013 #30
It is a Democratic forum, which is why you see people standing up for Democratic Policies sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #33
I am a Democrat because I believe in the ideals the party has historically stood for... markpkessinger Apr 2013 #34
Thank you. 840high Apr 2013 #40
Given that an admin posted this: MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #37
Is this Manny, or 3rd Way Manny? jazzimov Apr 2013 #45
Also, some people with high post count can also be trolls. Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #39
Absolutely! jazzimov Apr 2013 #49
IIRC, the guy who stalled funds for Andy Stephenson's operation jazzimov Apr 2013 #51
Unrec for use of "my bad." WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #50
This isn't rooting for your favorite football team. mick063 Apr 2013 #53
I want the Democratic Party back duffyduff Apr 2013 #57
Indeed. Your bad. progressoid Apr 2013 #61
LOCKING Turborama Apr 2013 #62
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