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TimberValley

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8. Yes, that is exactly what I was thinking.

Reply to onenote (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 12, 2013, 11:02 AM

Apr 2013

Perhaps someone who is being bullied in school, is also coping with the recent loss of members of her family, a diagnosis of an incurable disease, has failing grades in all of their classes in school, and their pet dog or cat just died also.

How would one be able to prove that it was the bullying, and not the combination of all the other factors, that was the main reason for the suicide?

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Should bullying someone to suicide be classified as a form of manslaughter? [View all] TimberValley Apr 2013 OP

No, but it should be a definitive defense for someone who kicks a bully's ass and is charged... slackmaster Apr 2013 #1

No, it's homicide. The incidents so far that come to mind show a clear trail of harrassment Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #2

Things have a way of happening in a roundabout way. Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #3

Failure to report criminal behavior while propagating evidence of it in the media should be HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #4

Actually it should be murder, not manslaughter as it is long term planned. graham4anything Apr 2013 #5

Wouldn't 'voluntary manslaughter' cover this? randome Apr 2013 #6

Proving causality beyond a reasonable doubt would be a challenge onenote Apr 2013 #7

Yes, that is exactly what I was thinking. TimberValley Apr 2013 #8

There is a doctrine in the law that you take people as you find them dsc Apr 2013 #17

Is that the Egg Shell Doctrine? blueamy66 Apr 2013 #19

yep dsc Apr 2013 #20

thank you blueamy66 Apr 2013 #21

No, suicide is suicide. bluedigger Apr 2013 #9

Unfortunately, wilfullness is also subject to pathological impulsiveness HereSince1628 Apr 2013 #12

No more and no less than is living another day. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #22

I'm not sure if that free will is still the same. TimberValley Apr 2013 #34

I think it should definitely be punished in some way as a criminal offense. polly7 Apr 2013 #10

You are correct in your supposition... Whiskeytide Apr 2013 #11

maybe the charge can carry a "special circumstances" wording quinnox Apr 2013 #13

Yes get the red out Apr 2013 #14

Nearly impossible to prove. cali Apr 2013 #15

Because we have a fucked up legal system get the red out Apr 2013 #33

The parents of the dead children (current bullied kids) should bring charges against the bullies.. Sunlei Apr 2013 #16

That might be the solution: teamster633 Apr 2013 #18

My thoughts exactly. bluedigger Apr 2013 #24

lots of court cases could change things for the better. Sunlei Apr 2013 #26

Like you... pipi_k Apr 2013 #23

You raise a good point. n/t. TimberValley Apr 2013 #32

Absolutely aandegoons Apr 2013 #25

Maybe "reckless endangerment"...I definitely think it should be criminalized in some way. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #27

No. This would actually encourage more suicides. Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #28

That's true. TimberValley Apr 2013 #35

It's very problematic kudzu22 Apr 2013 #29

No. JVS Apr 2013 #30

Incentivizes Suicide jberryhill Apr 2013 #31

bullying should be a crime - but it is not manslaughter Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #36