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JDPriestly

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Sun Apr 14, 2013, 03:07 PM Apr 2013

So, just how much money are those lazy seniors getting from their Social Security? [View all]

What is the maximum monthly Social Security retirement benefit?

The maximum benefit depends on the age a worker chooses to retire. For example, for a worker retiring at age 66 in 2012, the amount is $2,513. This figure is based on earnings at the maximum taxable amount for every year after age 21.

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/5/~/maximum-social-security-retirement-benefit

That is $30,156 per year.

That seems like a lot compared to the $15,080 you earn working 2080 hours (40 per week) at the federal minimum wage of $7.25 for a year.

But that $15,080 per year sounds pretty good to the average Social Security recipient who was receiving $14,760 per year as of January 2012 -- even less than our friend earning a minimum wage.

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/13/~/average-monthly-social-security-benefit-for-a-retired-worker

And at least $100 per month or $1,200 of that $14,760 is taken out of the Social Security benefit to pay for Medicare before that senior ever gets his money. That brings the basic Social Security/Medicare benefit down to $13,560 per year.

The poverty guideline for one person is $11,490.

http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/13poverty.cfm#guidelines

So, Social Security keeps the average single senior just $2070 above the poverty guideline limit. Keep your husband or wife alive, hon, because if you lose him or her, it's tough sledding ahead.

Some seniors pay much more for their basic Medicare than $100 per month. I know someone who is retired, on Medicare and has to pay $300 per month for her Medicare based on the health insurance company that her former employer chose for her.

Our co-pays for Medicare vary from $5.00 to hundreds of dollars depending on what procedures we have done and where we have them done. I am enrolled with Kaiser. It's probably the cheapest or at least one of the very least expensive Medicare plans. To go basic Medicare in L.A. is complicated because you have to pick doctors, specialists, etc.

To be so lucky as to receive $30,156 per year from Social Security, you would have to have earned pretty much the maximum salary or wage subject to Social Security taxes for many years. And most people don't do that.

Remember, the very rich, people like Romney or Pete Peterson, don't take much, if any of their millions in income that is subject to Social Security taxes. They receive capital gains and other forms of income besides, only approximately the first $110,000 of wages or earned income is subject to the payroll or Social Security taxes.

So the very rich are not benefiting or losing that much from Social Security or payroll taxes. Many of them don't pay much at all into it. I cannot understand why they are even concerned about it.

Social Security is ABSOLUTELY NONE OF THE BUSINESS OF RICH PEOPLE LIKE PETE PETERSON AND HIS MILLIONAIRE BUDDIES AND THEY SHOULD KEEP THEIR NOSES AND THEIR DIRTY FINGERS OUT OF IT.

There is really a lot of misinformation about Social Security out there.

I am posting this on my DU journal so that I and others can refer to it in the future.

For minimum wage link:

http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/wages/minimumwage.htm


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What is the average monthly Social Security benefit for a retired worker?

The average monthly Social Security benefit for a retired worker was about $1,230 at the beginning of 2012. This amount changes monthly based upon the total amount of all benefits paid and the total number of people receiving benefits.

http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/13/~/average-monthly-social-security-benefit-for-a-retired-worker

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If you happen to work more than 35 years the lower years are dropped on determining your Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #1
Good idea. But they make the laws. How do we get our points across JDPriestly Apr 2013 #2
I am not in good shape in my Congressional members, Crazy Cruz, Cronyn and TP Thinkingabout Apr 2013 #4
Are you a member of your local Democratic Club or Party? JDPriestly Apr 2013 #12
K&R woo me with science Apr 2013 #3
SSI kickysnana Apr 2013 #5
They have eliminated all new section 8 and meals on wheels. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #8
The old saying, "The Devil is in the Details" becomes quite NobodyInParticular Apr 2013 #6
There's no real money there to steal customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #9
This is precisely what they want. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #13
Oh, yes, the interest rates stink customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #17
Good for you for saving. Most Americans do not earn enough JDPriestly Apr 2013 #29
I did the same thing. airplaneman Apr 2013 #19
Many fund managers do suck out a lot customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #20
That's not what they are looking for. They are looking to get the new FICA Cleita Apr 2013 #27
You are so right, Cleita. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #30
Exactly. And that is why this is rightfully a very emotional issue for JDPriestly Apr 2013 #10
K&R nt abelenkpe Apr 2013 #7
If I got that much, I would be okay. Cleita Apr 2013 #11
Are you talking about the average benefit or the high one? JDPriestly Apr 2013 #15
The average benefit. I'm never low enough for the poverty breaks even though Cleita Apr 2013 #21
It sounds frivolous to say the money would be to get your hair and nails JDPriestly Apr 2013 #31
And that would be me. I too have arthritis and it's hard for me to cut my hair or Cleita Apr 2013 #34
True. Thanks. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #35
Me too. RebelOne Apr 2013 #16
And it's really not enough to be comfortable. None of us are looking for a luxurious Cleita Apr 2013 #23
It is only the cost of living increase, not the amount treestar Apr 2013 #14
According to Trumpka of the AFL-CIO, the average amount in the JDPriestly Apr 2013 #18
isn't everyone supposed to have: airplaneman Apr 2013 #24
Oh, and a genie in a lamp that provides all those things if you Cleita Apr 2013 #26
LOL. Great post. Thanks. I needed that laugh. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #32
We're also supposed to have low cholesterol, sweet breath, and a trim waistline. Stinky The Clown Apr 2013 #36
With lower and lower wages and minimum wage not being a living wage, I don't Cleita Apr 2013 #25
You make it sound like the difference will be so huge treestar Apr 2013 #28
I hope you see that the amounts paid out each month are smaller JDPriestly Apr 2013 #39
you do realize that the cost of living increase impacts the total amount magical thyme Apr 2013 #22
My SS each month is Bohunk68 Apr 2013 #33
You are precisely the kind of senior that I am posting about. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #38
Does your state have a property tax relief program Lars39 Apr 2013 #40
It's called the STAR Bohunk68 Apr 2013 #41
Ouch! Lars39 Apr 2013 #42
My monthly Social Security check is $1378 after RebelOne Apr 2013 #44
you forgot income tax and the people that are cheated by the SS Admin.... msongs Apr 2013 #37
K&R forestpath Apr 2013 #43
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