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graham4anything

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67. There are two and only two choices in 2016. Jeb is one of them.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 06:27 AM
Apr 2013

BTW, I gotta thank Ralph Nader for something

I thank Ralph Nader in 2000 for one and only one thing-
making sure what he did in 2000 will NEVER EVER be a viable option again for the democratic party or any democratic voter. Thanks Ralph!!! You and only you did that. You insured you could never do again what you did to us then.
There is NO third choice and you all have Ralph Nader to thank for it!

Is anyone going to be foolish enough to vote for a third party ticket with Rand Paul's name on it?

President Obama's agenda will continue.
Or Jeb Bush will be President.
The choice is clear.

Because at the end of the day, the 2016 nominee needs 90% of all core Hillary and Obama voters to vote for the nominee. Without them they are Dukakis and McGovern.

yes, this is my opinion, but the stats tell the story.

Just for a laugh ponder this-
What if, let's say,you did achieve the goal of not having hillary.
Who do you think might secure the nomination?
Be careful what you wish for, because it might not be the persons you envision.
There is a certain certain that comes to mind that has the wherewithal to secure the nomination should he choose, but he won't. But he could. He wouldn't run against Hillary.
But he would run if he could win. He has the financing to do it.
Be careful what one wishes for.

I myself will 100% vote for the name on top of the Democratic ticket in 2016.
In stone. It will not change.

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yes, the ruling class plays a long game. nothing new there. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #1
the states are using Obamacare to get us all on Medicare. But continue your whinging. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #32
He is a true pragmatist. DemocraticProse Apr 2013 #2
OK, so his vision is long. Now, what does he see? eShirl Apr 2013 #3
Obviously, single payer health care. if you were or are paying attention. KittyWampus Apr 2013 #33
Ask not the question, what does he see...ask graham4anything Apr 2013 #4
In other words, you are as mystified as I am. eShirl Apr 2013 #5
I see it clearly. graham4anything Apr 2013 #6
By all means. Don't let us keep you. eShirl Apr 2013 #7
Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars graham4anything Apr 2013 #12
"Brevity is the soul of wit" William Shakespeare Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #25
KnR again Hekate Apr 2013 #44
I've read Shakespeare.. pipoman Apr 2013 #9
Do you really need a law saying you can't drink a 48 ounce soda? Autumn Apr 2013 #21
Ok. You got me. Brilliant satire. Marr Apr 2013 #80
Awesome! pipoman Apr 2013 #8
STOP IT PIPOMAN Skittles Apr 2013 #51
Not really sure where long rants like this originate... pipoman Apr 2013 #59
heehee Skittles Apr 2013 #60
Being 62, I've seen the "long view" in action over the last 30 years Armstead Apr 2013 #10
with all due respect graham4anything Apr 2013 #14
With all due respect, I fricking know that Armstead Apr 2013 #29
I have mellowed toward disco graham4anything Apr 2013 #30
THANK YOU ARMSTEAD Skittles Apr 2013 #53
I still want to know what drugs are you taking that give you these delusions? hobbit709 Apr 2013 #11
I'm wondering if this is someone's idea of performance art. JHB Apr 2013 #19
If it is, it's not very good performance art. hobbit709 Apr 2013 #27
I've maintained that all along and this is one of his best interactive installations to date! Dragonfli Apr 2013 #48
Called that months ago Fumesucker Apr 2013 #68
What battle has Obama Fought? Teamster Jeff Apr 2013 #13
Yay Lincoln: The First (3rd party) Republican ever elected! green for victory Apr 2013 #15
The world knows Lincoln was a republican and that LBJ had to contend with Wallace graham4anything Apr 2013 #16
Be well. nt Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #17
Love that long game excuse when.. ananda Apr 2013 #18
Millions died in WW2 before the US after way too long entered. graham4anything Apr 2013 #35
I think you are writing free verse today, graham Hekate Apr 2013 #46
As Paul Simon sang "Silence like a cancer grows" graham4anything Apr 2013 #47
LOL. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #20
+100000 The very BEST liberal, prosperous futures woo me with science Apr 2013 #22
In the long run, we are all dead jsr Apr 2013 #23
Going for the.... Wounded Bear Apr 2013 #24
Will he be canonized as a Democrat or a republican? nt Zorra Apr 2013 #26
Is Lincoln idolized by republicans or democratic folk? graham4anything Apr 2013 #36
None of those others mentioned (FDR, for certain)... MrMickeysMom Apr 2013 #28
Or he's just trying to reach various deals with the GOP. Orsino Apr 2013 #31
Oh. My. God. Safetykitten Apr 2013 #34
sometimes it's so over the top ridiculous Skittles Apr 2013 #54
Just think "Plan 9 From Outer Space", and it suddenly takes on a whole new slant. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #58
Uh..LBJ lost his "little" war because of his hubris of "thinking ahead". Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #37
Foolish in that LBJ would have beaten Nixon. Nothing else mattered graham4anything Apr 2013 #39
So, do you consider LBJ a "good" person for engineering the deaths of millions? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #50
Are you a fan of Nixon's? Because Nixon was the direct beneficiary of LBJ not running. graham4anything Apr 2013 #64
Other than not answering the question, LBJ could have beaten Nixon is laughable. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #72
another of these circular arguements. I said all I wish to say in the OP. graham4anything Apr 2013 #74
LBJ was not going to win against Nixon, premium Apr 2013 #73
People can be distracted by shiny things, but polished turds still smell. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #38
Universal pre-school and $10 minimum wage that increases with inflation are both long view ideas loyalsister Apr 2013 #40
"We'll fix it later" is perhaps the ultimate, failsafe lie of the Turd Way. TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #45
+1 Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #55
"The long game" aka Turd Way newspeak for the screwing we are doing to you today TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Apr 2013 #43
Bush ll already screwed the country over Jamaal510 Apr 2013 #82
KnR. It is a long, long road, and the Far Right has been strategizing for over 40 years Hekate Apr 2013 #42
Bravo! One of your best installations to date! I think you are an artistic genius, Dragonfli Apr 2013 #49
I switched it up a bit for some variety... Bonobo Apr 2013 #52
. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #56
Are you applauding Obama for continuing the legacy of Clinton JDPriestly Apr 2013 #57
Excuse me, which candidate is doing that in 2016? Please be specific. graham4anything Apr 2013 #62
I'm going to wait and see. But I will not vote for Hillary. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #63
So I guess you will vote for Jeb. As he is going to be running vs. Hillary graham4anything Apr 2013 #65
There will be other choices. I've only ever voted for a Democrat, but JDPriestly Apr 2013 #81
This reads like some quasi-religious hagiography waddirum Apr 2013 #61
That tone is creeping in more and more, isn't it? Marr Apr 2013 #79
You're projecting what you wish to be true onto the President cali Apr 2013 #66
There are two and only two choices in 2016. Jeb is one of them. graham4anything Apr 2013 #67
bzzt. wrong. yet again. ever frickin' hear of primaries? cali Apr 2013 #69
Hillary is going to win no matter which scenerio when she runs. graham4anything Apr 2013 #71
I think I'm beginning to understand something here, premium Apr 2013 #76
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #70
Your second to last statement is proved right whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #75
K&R! sheshe2 Apr 2013 #77
The Bush Administration insisted they couldn't be judged in the present, too. Marr Apr 2013 #78
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