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wercal

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17. I don't discount it merely because they're dumb

Tue Apr 23, 2013, 05:15 PM

Apr 2013

The shoe and underwear bombers were fairly hapless - yet they are connected to Al Quaeda.

Some things make me wonder...

- Where did the igniters come from?
- Can one learn to make a cell phone bomb merely by watching Youtube?
- How did the older brother finance his trip to Russia?
- Why did the Russian government 'key in' on the older brother and ask the FBI to check him out? I.E. who/what did he deal with in Russia?

Bottom line, Islamic terrorism doesn't necessarily have to be 'organized'. These two didn't need some sort of authorization from a central authority to wage their own micro-jihad. So no, they might not have necessarily been on the Al Quaeda payroll...

but...

It is only responsible to search out who else these two associated with, and investigate whether or not they were part of a larger group. I'm sure that's happening right now (without your permission I'm afraid).

Now here is the important part: Even if it turns out that these two acted completely alone, it will not mean it was a mistake to investigate further.

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Does anyone really think the Tsarneav Brothers... [View all] busterbrown Apr 2013 OP

Yes Leslie Valley Apr 2013 #1

Boy, the MSM sure relies on people like you... busterbrown Apr 2013 #4

The whole thing has teenage dumbass bravado written all over it Taverner Apr 2013 #2

Yup. I think you nailed it. El Fuego Apr 2013 #16

You know you make a very good point malaise Apr 2013 #32

And the Butch and Sundance thing in Watertown? FarCenter Apr 2013 #41

They are both cowards Taverner Apr 2013 #58

These two brothers don't seem to be the brightest avebury Apr 2013 #44

They wanted fame. Nothing more than sick fame. and what you wrote here, is the same graham4anything Apr 2013 #3

The whole right wing element is praying for these 2 nut cases to be high level Muslim Terrorists busterbrown Apr 2013 #6

The 20% of the republican party people, and 100% of the republican office holders graham4anything Apr 2013 #7

Tough to call that number... busterbrown Apr 2013 #10

The RW was praying as much as the LW was praying for them to be "tea party nut cases" True Earthling Apr 2013 #23

Perfect... conflate the Democrats with Republicans. busterbrown Apr 2013 #26

You're right... I will lose every time True Earthling Apr 2013 #36

Before you go... busterbrown Apr 2013 #38

"...I'm sick of the demonizing of RW'rs as some kind of sub-human evil..." VOX Apr 2013 #54

The left wing here was hoping madville Apr 2013 #61

Borat n/t malaise Apr 2013 #33

Connected? Depends on what you mean. onenote Apr 2013 #5

Could you provide a link to your point on Richard Reid(Shoe bomber).. busterbrown Apr 2013 #8

here onenote Apr 2013 #9

Thanks... busterbrown Apr 2013 #11

They were connected to Islamic terrorists via YouTube El Fuego Apr 2013 #12

Well heres some more info which will disappoint you! busterbrown Apr 2013 #49

I don't understand your point vis-a-vis my post. Did you mean to reply to me? El Fuego Apr 2013 #55

nope...sorry busterbrown Apr 2013 #56

The talent level of terrorists just ain't what it used to be. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #13

My Magic 8 Ball is saying "Islamic terrorist wannabes" Brother Buzz Apr 2013 #14

Maybe the older brother who was a miserable slob.. But the younger brother was busterbrown Apr 2013 #15

I don't discount it merely because they're dumb wercal Apr 2013 #17

Of course you have got to investigate. busterbrown Apr 2013 #19

I've missed it wercal Apr 2013 #20

Just listen to Fox or Limbaugh .. Any time of the day. busterbrown Apr 2013 #31

Hold on wercal Apr 2013 #42

Just found this.. busterbrown Apr 2013 #50

If there's a link, I don't see it... wercal Apr 2013 #51

I guess you and I are not viewing into the same media outlets.. busterbrown Apr 2013 #64

This might help... busterbrown Apr 2013 #65

What do you think he was doing when he spent 6 months in Dagestan? dkf Apr 2013 #18

Maybe visiting his family...You Think? busterbrown Apr 2013 #22

His father went to a different mosque. dkf Apr 2013 #24

God...I don�t go to the same Church as my wife... busterbrown Apr 2013 #27

I dunno about the older brother Rex Apr 2013 #21

That's like saying people who read Baseball Digest are connected to MLB. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #25

The Daily Racing Form has radicalized me a number of times jberryhill Apr 2013 #29

Mmmm, now that you mention it. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #30

Probably not, but it needs to be checked. whathehell Apr 2013 #28

Didn�t say it shouldn�t be.. busterbrown Apr 2013 #34

Okay whathehell Apr 2013 #40

I think they are dangerous people whether they were connected to anyone else or not. hrmjustin Apr 2013 #35

no, but they weren't as incompetent as some here are making them out to be cali Apr 2013 #37

The younger one was partying on Wednesday. Jesus Christ..with his picture all over T.V. busterbrown Apr 2013 #39

I had not read that. I did read he went to his dorm room and the gym. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #46

Well this is it... busterbrown Apr 2013 #47

no. i do not seem them as part of an org. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #43

Other connected terrorists were idiots. Underwear bomber for shining example. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #45

How can you take out thousands of hand held phones.?. busterbrown Apr 2013 #48

I don't think they acted alone. jessie04 Apr 2013 #52

Who knows, however, your reasoning is flawed. The shoe bomber the times still_one Apr 2013 #53

Yea they could have had some outside contact with some lone wolves. busterbrown Apr 2013 #57

In all honesty I would not even speculate, those others I mentioned did have contact. When they still_one Apr 2013 #60

Looks like they sympathised with some terr. groups/causes (internet useage), but nothing Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #59

Maybe this will help the conversation.. busterbrown Apr 2013 #62

As I said...the guy described themselves as "self-radicalized" by internet useage Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #66

so far anyway - the evidence shows that the two acted alone and there were no other accomplices Douglas Carpenter Apr 2013 #63