Is the goal reasonable gun control laws, or is the goal saving lives?

[billh58]

91. The gunners are trying

a new tack now: they are pretending to be the "voice of reason" while still spewing their bullshit NRA propaganda. We need more mental health support they say. We need better housing they say. We need to stop working for sane gun laws and concentrate on social issues which are the underlying causes of gun violence. Does anyone really think that Republicans will support those issues, when they NEVER have?

Yes we DO need those things, but they have absolutely nothing to do with the gun problem. We need to defeat the fucking NRA which buys our politicians to pass insane laws like concealed carry, stand your ground, no background checks for private sales, absolutely no accountability after a gun sale (registration), and many other asinine local gun laws.

The smoke and mirrors tactics by the OP and other NRA apologists include the falsehood that we are "alienating ALL gun owners," and that the few "cold dead hands" Gungeoneers and huggers (including the OP) speak for them. That is pure and utter bullshit! Gun owners, like all Americans are divided along political, philosophical, religious, and ethnic lines and do NOT vote as a bloc. The NRA, and its supporters, use that particular lie as a hammer to beat up Democrats on a daily basis, and it's simply not true.

The other "big lie" is that the NRA has convinced a few million gullible Americans that the mean old Democrats are "coming for their guns," and coerced them into buying tons of ammunition in order to make even more profits. The entire NRA-sponsored lie machine has only one purpose: profits for their gun manufacturer sponsors, and to use a portion of those profits to buy yet more politicians at all levels of government.

So please spare me the "we're here to help you understand" bullshit, and go back to the Gungeon where the real right-wing NRA motives are on display.