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Luminous Animal

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Sun Apr 28, 2013, 01:26 AM Apr 2013

U.S. soldier gets 16 year sentence for trying to sell military secrets to Russia. [View all]

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/15849-sixteen-years-for-espionage-life-in-jail-for-whistleblowing

Whistleblower Bradely Manning faces life in prison for exposing war crimes and corruption.

Contrast that motive with Bradley Manning’s. In chat logs with government informant Adrian Lamo, Manning hypothesized, “what if i were someone more malicious…i could’ve sold to russia or china, and made bank?”

“Why didn’t you?” Lamo asked.

“Because it’s public data,” he said. “It belongs in the public domain…information should be free…because another state would just take advantage of the information… try and get some edge…if its out in the open… it should be a public good.”

Manning expounded on his reasons for passing to WikiLeaks hundreds of thousands of documents chronicling U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and U.S. diplomacy worldwide, in a statement earlier this year,

I believed that if the general public, especially the American public, had access to the information contained within the [Iraq and Afghan War Logs] this could spark a domestic debate on the role of the military and our foreign policy in general as well as it related to Iraq and Afghanistan.


That statement accompanied a guilty plea to lesser offenses, including communicating information to someone not entitled to receive it. That plea could have put Manning in jail for up to twenty years. But that wasn’t sufficient for military prosecutors, who immediately succeeded that statement with the announcement that they’ll continue to pursue all 22 charges against Manning, seeking life in jail without parole.


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16 years isn't sufficient for this reason: msanthrope Apr 2013 #1
First,John Goetz, journalist with Der Spiegal who was at the dinner, says it never happened. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #2
Given the libel laws of Britian, I seriously doubt the journalists who reported on this are lying. msanthrope Apr 2013 #3
Really. With no tape how could it be proved? Leigh says it happened. Goetz says no. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #8
I think it would be an excellent case. The burden of proof would have been on the defense. msanthrope Apr 2013 #19
The secrets he tried to give... Pelican Apr 2013 #4
My point. One betrayed for profit. The other for transparency.... Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #5
I agree! burrowowl Apr 2013 #6
Manning was just striking back at the organization... Pelican Apr 2013 #11
I believe that we fuck people up on a daily basis.. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #17
It's hard to take you seriously... Pelican Apr 2013 #22
Read the article. No information was passed. nt DevonRex Apr 2013 #9
What "war crimes" did Manning expose? Recursion Apr 2013 #13
Collateral Murder. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #14
Where the helicopter shoots the armed insurgents out after curfew? Recursion Apr 2013 #15
We both know that is not true. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #18
Apparently you never watched the video Recursion Apr 2013 #20
I know Assange got his ass kicked by Stephen Colbert, who pointed out the guy with the RPG. msanthrope Apr 2013 #21
Plus that other soldier was not successful in passing info. Manning WAS. DevonRex Apr 2013 #7
Our own government has stated several times that they have no evidence Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #12
You really think Bradley Manning DevonRex Apr 2013 #16
The Iraq war itself was a war crime. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #24
And apparently you don't give a shit about the crimes our govt. commits Daniel537 Apr 2013 #25
oh you poor thing DevonRex Apr 2013 #26
"Trying" Recursion Apr 2013 #10
You beat me to it - "trying to" jberryhill Apr 2013 #23
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