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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
1. 16 years isn't sufficient for this reason:
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 01:40 AM
Apr 2013

David Leigh and Luke Harding's history of WikiLeaks describes how journalists took Assange to Moro's, a classy Spanish restaurant in central London. A reporter worried that Assange would risk killing Afghans who had co-operated with American forces if he put US secrets online without taking the basic precaution of removing their names. "Well, they're informants," Assange replied. "So, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it." A silence fell on the table as the reporters realised that the man the gullible hailed as the pioneer of a new age of transparency was willing to hand death lists to psychopaths. They persuaded Assange to remove names before publishing the State Department Afghanistan cables. But Assange's disillusioned associates suggest that the failure to expose "informants" niggled in his mind.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/18/julian-assange-wikileaks-nick-cohen



Mr. Manning and Mr. Assange provided the governments of the word information on their dissidents for free. 16 years isn't enough.
16 years isn't sufficient for this reason: msanthrope Apr 2013 #1
First,John Goetz, journalist with Der Spiegal who was at the dinner, says it never happened. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #2
Given the libel laws of Britian, I seriously doubt the journalists who reported on this are lying. msanthrope Apr 2013 #3
Really. With no tape how could it be proved? Leigh says it happened. Goetz says no. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #8
I think it would be an excellent case. The burden of proof would have been on the defense. msanthrope Apr 2013 #19
The secrets he tried to give... Pelican Apr 2013 #4
My point. One betrayed for profit. The other for transparency.... Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #5
I agree! burrowowl Apr 2013 #6
Manning was just striking back at the organization... Pelican Apr 2013 #11
I believe that we fuck people up on a daily basis.. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #17
It's hard to take you seriously... Pelican Apr 2013 #22
Read the article. No information was passed. nt DevonRex Apr 2013 #9
What "war crimes" did Manning expose? Recursion Apr 2013 #13
Collateral Murder. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #14
Where the helicopter shoots the armed insurgents out after curfew? Recursion Apr 2013 #15
We both know that is not true. Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #18
Apparently you never watched the video Recursion Apr 2013 #20
I know Assange got his ass kicked by Stephen Colbert, who pointed out the guy with the RPG. msanthrope Apr 2013 #21
Plus that other soldier was not successful in passing info. Manning WAS. DevonRex Apr 2013 #7
Our own government has stated several times that they have no evidence Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #12
You really think Bradley Manning DevonRex Apr 2013 #16
The Iraq war itself was a war crime. Daniel537 Apr 2013 #24
And apparently you don't give a shit about the crimes our govt. commits Daniel537 Apr 2013 #25
oh you poor thing DevonRex Apr 2013 #26
"Trying" Recursion Apr 2013 #10
You beat me to it - "trying to" jberryhill Apr 2013 #23
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