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billh58

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73. I did not say that

Thu May 2, 2013, 07:57 PM

May 2013

"workers rights" were contained in the Constitution, but the Labor Movement has always been a part of the fabric of the American way of life. The movement is currently in decline, and I was in on the beginning of the decline. I was a PATCO air traffic controller on August 3, 1981, and was the President of the PATCO Local at my facility. I was proudly fired by Ronny Raygun, fined by a Federal Judge for violating an injunction, and still ardently support unions.

Having said that, May 1st has been Loyalty Day in the United States for decades. In Hawaii May Day (May 1) is also Lei Day, and is celebrated as such. President Obama, like almost all presidents before him since Eisenhower, issued a proclamation recognizing May 1 as Loyalty Day as requested by Congress when they passed the Public Law. He is only following tradition, and protocol.

You may bash President Obama for whatever reasons you choose, but he has done nothing wrong with this proclamation of Loyalty Day. I am also a combat veteran, and fully appreciate the meaning of loyalty and sacrifice.

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Massive DU History Fail.....the CONGRESS passed "Loyalty Day' in 1958. [View all] msanthrope May 2013 OP

Well, now... Wait Wut May 2013 #1

We've got two threads hopping in GD now. They are high, civics-free humor. nt msanthrope May 2013 #3

Oh, you and your facts and your historical context. tanyev May 2013 #2

ROFL alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #4

. ProSense May 2013 #5

Ooh, that's good. *steals for later use* freshwest May 2013 #8

Stolen. nt msanthrope May 2013 #11

cool. graham4anything May 2013 #141

What's the controversy then? I missed all but the proclamation. Standard stuff. freshwest May 2013 #6

Ahem....The current President did what every other Democratic President did, and is being blamed for msanthrope May 2013 #9

Someone explained it to me. It's called ratfucking, invented by the Nixon operative, Segretti: freshwest May 2013 #31

Nice research. ucrdem May 2013 #124

I just found out we can also DUmail ourselves things to refer back to, if needed. freshwest May 2013 #129

Your journal is awesome to behold. ucrdem May 2013 #130

Thanks, look forward to seeing more of your posts. freshwest May 2013 #133

Thanks so much for this lesson in ancient history that refuses to die.... Hekate May 2013 #135

+1. Sowing fear and discouragement never helps progressive causes. Never. freshwest May 2013 #137

Our problem is the stake through the heart! That only works on vampires. Tyrs WolfDaemon May 2013 #146

LOL! or rather, Bwaa-ha-ha-ha! Hekate May 2013 #150

Excellent post, Freshwest LeftInTX May 2013 #154

I posted the news that Obama had signed the Loyalty Day proclamation dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #13

Should he have ignored the statute? nt msanthrope May 2013 #15

Ask the people in the thread......... dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #16

Are you unaware that the wording in your OP is misleading, or do you just not care? redqueen May 2013 #19

I'm asking you. And will you correct your mistake in your title? It's a Civics Fail that msanthrope May 2013 #20

... crickets ... 11 Bravo May 2013 #56

if you bothered to look, you will see that I did indeed change the heading dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #68

Even without this clarification... ecstatic May 2013 #7

Glad I missed the outrage, then. But it's inevitable if it's PBO, I guess. freshwest May 2013 #12

I'm glad you missed it LeftInTX May 2013 #155

The DU version of 'Obama doesn't have ketchup on his burgers!' and 'His hair cut looks Muslim!' freshwest May 2013 #156

k&r....link.... spanone May 2013 #10

Question, G_j May 2013 #14

I think President Obama read it through a bullhorn, while standing on piles of money.....nt msanthrope May 2013 #25

Win. SOOO full of win. Number23 May 2013 #39

funny if you think snark is appropriate G_j May 2013 #60

No problem. Number23 May 2013 #65

Much obliged G_j May 2013 #117

I second that emotion....! MADem May 2013 #139

so that is the answer? G_j May 2013 #43

And there was a sulfurous cloud of smoke wreathed about him, as befits the anti-Christ Hekate May 2013 #72

yes.... dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #67

thank you G_j May 2013 #71

Thank you, well said. Addison May 2013 #74

yes, and how calling may day another holiday is very much to quash May Day as May Day. robinlynne May 2013 #97

And perhaps feel slighted zeemike May 2013 #102

I haven't really been paying attention. Blue_In_AK May 2013 #140

They are upset there wasn't a proclamation for International Workers' Day OKNancy May 2013 #17

+1 redqueen May 2013 #21

Well, Democrats campaign a bit like Marxists leftstreet May 2013 #30

like I said, get one elected and you can rip that person too. OKNancy May 2013 #33

Maybe there's a reason half the eligible voters don't vote n/t leftstreet May 2013 #36

They're numbskulls? OKNancy May 2013 #38

They don't like the choices? n/t leftstreet May 2013 #41

+1000 truebluegreen May 2013 #90

Because the 80+ countries that *do* celebrate the labor movement on May 1 magellan May 2013 #51

if you will re-read my post, you will see OKNancy May 2013 #66

"It's ridiculous to think that an American Pres would issue a proclamation honoring workers day" magellan May 2013 #78

no, you are incorrect. OKNancy May 2013 #143

Only here magellan May 2013 #158

I don't get it, are you being sarcastic? eilen May 2013 #85

I get the confusion now. You have to know the history behind International Workers Day OKNancy May 2013 #142

Over 80 countries count it as a national holiday-- over an event that happened in Chicago... eilen May 2013 #149

K&R n/t Greybnk48 May 2013 #18

But the sputtering outrage about it is truly fucking hilarious... SidDithers May 2013 #22

You Better Believe It!!!! The "Losing of Shit" combined with a "Civics Fail" is high comedy. msanthrope May 2013 #23

Speaking of flags... ProSense May 2013 #32

"Donovan Slack" was the reporter's name. I couldn't make that up. nt msanthrope May 2013 #57

LOL! zappaman May 2013 #24

I'm gonna need an EMT, I'm laughing so hard....nt msanthrope May 2013 #26

!!! zappaman May 2013 #28

Good to know.. I Cha May 2013 #120

But ProSense May 2013 #27

Look, when Obama used the Presidential Time Machine to go back to 1958 and get this law passed, msanthrope May 2013 #29

Which he did on Mars after his teleportation trip! randome May 2013 #40

Wow, you are just wrong! It was in the 1980's. freshwest May 2013 #44

Wow. Obama looks like Lenny Kravitz in that pic...nt SidDithers May 2013 #47

He's actually one of the Pharoahs, in case you haven't heard. He's an immortal shapeshifter. freshwest May 2013 #55

"He would fix it if he really wanted to" CitizenPatriot May 2013 #59

You've encapsulated the FDLL crowd here, perfectly. nt msanthrope May 2013 #95

+10! (nt) reACTIONary May 2013 #104

Ah, I detect working brain cells. Thank you, that was refreshing. freshwest May 2013 #115

Yep. That's the template alright. Bobbie Jo May 2013 #125

The "propaganda" ain't the only thing weird and creepy in that thread... Number23 May 2013 #112

Sounds like Red Scare bullcrap. Union Scribe May 2013 #34

It is. It's garbage. Hissyspit May 2013 #80

Yeah, I'm glad he chose not to reiterate National Jim Crow Day... nt eilen May 2013 #86

I find this to be a racist post. Care to expand? nt msanthrope May 2013 #98

It's a really stupid post whatever was implied. Cha May 2013 #134

Nat'l Loyalty Day was originated in 1958, during the time of Jim Crow eilen May 2013 #148

What day was that? freshwest May 2013 #116

Indeed it is. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #93

" I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, bvar22 May 2013 #35

You forgot to billh58 May 2013 #58

"Workers Rights" are specified in the Constitution? bvar22 May 2013 #63

I did not say that billh58 May 2013 #73

Yes, pursuant to statute created in 1958. Frankly, I find the co-opting of Beltane by the Marxists msanthrope May 2013 #62

Are you keeping a list? Number23 May 2013 #37

I think Nixon wanted Labor day to be called "Law and Order" day. alfredo May 2013 #42

I just heard this in my head... msanthrope May 2013 #46

Lawnnorder was the right wing response to anti war protests. Doink Doink alfredo May 2013 #132

Yep. Could they be making themselves more transparent? treestar May 2013 #45

...and the wholesale fucking of the American worker has been going on since the 1800's Earth_First May 2013 #48

And maybe he could have talked about all kinds of stuff. THIS was the DevonRex May 2013 #54

And the White House wrote the Proclamation yesterday. rug May 2013 #49

Nah--I'm betting it was written sometime in April, was reviewed and edited by the DLC, msanthrope May 2013 #53

I think Joe McCarthy wrote the original draft. Fuddnik May 2013 #61

It has been comedy gold for sure n/t MadrasT May 2013 #50

So, I chose to avoid those other two threads for a while Sheepshank May 2013 #52

Well, to be fair Number23 May 2013 #75

I don't remember, but then I was busy studying for final exams back then at this time. Cleita May 2013 #64

Hey, the 2014 Midterms aren't going to suppress themselves. FSogol May 2013 #69

The Internet has made ratfucking accountable.....you gotta PRODUCE! nt msanthrope May 2013 #70

Statement by the President Upon Signing Resolution Designating May as Loyalty Day James48 May 2013 #76

Obama took over Eisenhower's body through the Jedi mind-meld after he used the Presidential Time msanthrope May 2013 #79

KnR. Total facepalm. Hekate May 2013 #77

People will not let facts stand in the way of bashing Obama krawhitham May 2013 #81

outrage about the new holiday "Loyalty Day" are a sort-of-annual DU tradition fishwax May 2013 #82

. ProSense May 2013 #83

It's like the rich 1% Whisp May 2013 #84

That cannot be true. It is Obama's fault. MineralMan May 2013 #87

Did you come on my thread to spread some more moose propaganda? msanthrope May 2013 #88

Bullwinkle Moose declares May 1 to be MineralMan May 2013 #91

I always figured you to be a Boris Badenov type. Now I know. nt msanthrope May 2013 #92

Well, Natasha MineralMan May 2013 #94

OK. Still a stupid idea, from the same decade and mindset truebluegreen May 2013 #89

Of course it came out of the McCarthy era list making oath taking time of knives in backs Bluenorthwest May 2013 #96

Our ancestors did that long before these silly political designations. nt msanthrope May 2013 #99

The Maypole holiday! MineralMan May 2013 #101

"Requested", not commanded, to wave the flag and speak platitudes. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #100

Damn Jimmy Carter, and every other Democratic President who answered that request from Congress!!! msanthrope May 2013 #103

Did they pledge loyalty to Mom..and apple pie? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #105

Obama is ebil! You should totally not vote for his third term. nt msanthrope May 2013 #106

No. He's just a politic-as-usual centrist playing to the crowd. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #108

No!!! He's EBIL!!!! nt msanthrope May 2013 #111

If you say so. But, I think he's just rather typical and very ordinary. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #114

this is the most ridiculous thread I have seen here in a long time.... chillfactor May 2013 #107

thanks for kicking this thread on the history of Cha May 2013 #123

Point of order.... Bobbie Jo May 2013 #126

The VFW's website on "Loyalty Day" James48 May 2013 #109

That word "heritage" bothers me a bit. Skip Intro May 2013 #110

5/1/15 is my father's birthday. The heck with any stupid "proclamations." WinkyDink May 2013 #113

What and miss a perfectly good chance(in their minds) to Cha May 2013 #118

I now proclaim everyday Obama Outrage Day on DU. JoePhilly May 2013 #119

Awesome... SidDithers May 2013 #121

Today's outrage threads have been hilarious. JoePhilly May 2013 #122

Gas prices are still down in my neighborhood! freshwest May 2013 #127

It's always Obama's fault... SidDithers May 2013 #128

Whenever it was passed, it's fucking lame. n/t whatchamacallit May 2013 #131

Yeah, a Republican, anti-Commie idea to counter May Day as International Workers Day Coyotl May 2013 #136

Politically, what would be the consequences of throwing out Loyalty Day OKNancy May 2013 #144

I dunno. The Republicans would have been unhappy with him? Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #153

Aren't you all high - falutin', with your knowledge and facts and all....! MADem May 2013 #138

I'm just now understanding that part of the problem is many here have no idea OKNancy May 2013 #145

Hell, that's asking way too much. MADem May 2013 #151

Article I , Section 8....I knows it. nt msanthrope May 2013 #147

Hee hee...! MADem May 2013 #152

The President is requested, not the President shall. His choice, not his duty. TheKentuckian May 2013 #157