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Bodhi BloodWave

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213. you mean just like the people who look down upon them for

Sat May 4, 2013, 01:34 PM

May 2013

'needing' an archaic book and can't help but insult and deride them?

Sorry to tell ya this but in my eyes both sides are just as bad in regards to thinking themselves superior.

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The pope says atheists pick and choose their morals. This is correct. [View all] WillParkinson May 2013 OP

That statement is ripe for endless ridicule as in the pic you posted! randome May 2013 #1

Not by thinking, rational people amuse bouche May 2013 #39

+1 JRLeft May 2013 #68

+1,000,000 ISW May 2013 #70

What do you mean? morningfog May 2013 #121

I referred to the Pope's statement, not the counter statement. randome May 2013 #168

Got it. morningfog May 2013 #170

So is your response to it...more so, infact. Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #134

Pope Francis extended a hand to those who don't belong to any religion, Katashi_itto May 2013 #157

The Pope can go fuck himself. Until he turns over the child rapists he's harboring stopbush May 2013 #179

Welcome to ignore..my family was actually touched by that. Katashi_itto May 2013 #183

Welcome to "meh." Drinking the feel-good bullshit coming from the enablers of child rapists stopbush May 2013 #206

Absolutely: Reason is always ridiculed by the Religious - unless they can kill the reasoners. panzerfaust May 2013 #158

Lovely painting -- reminds me of this Generic Other May 2013 #215

Um, guys? I meant the Pope's statement is ripe for endless ridicule. randome May 2013 #160

DU atheists give me a major pain, but I completely agree with the OP. Buzz Clik May 2013 #234

I never understood why so many people need an archaic book truebluegreen May 2013 #2

Instead of acting in a moral and upright manner toward their fellow human beings Ikonoklast May 2013 #4

I guess. truebluegreen May 2013 #5

you mean just like the people who look down upon them for Bodhi BloodWave May 2013 #213

"both sides are just as bad" RetroLounge May 2013 #229

i was refeering specifically to the 'moral superiority' attitude Bodhi BloodWave May 2013 #237

Why don't you try comparing actions truebluegreen May 2013 #241

+1000 RetroLounge May 2013 #243

likely because that wasn't the topic of this subthread Bodhi BloodWave May 2013 #248

+1000 truebluegreen May 2013 #240

I've read about organized groups of atheists committing atrocities Art_from_Ark May 2013 #262

Nice stretch there... RetroLounge May 2013 #263

Stretch? Art_from_Ark May 2013 #264

And they committed this genocide in the name of their non-god? RetroLounge May 2013 #266

Pfft. truebluegreen May 2013 #239

Ironically Christians choose their morals also. There are as many different interpretations of what rhett o rick May 2013 #8

I don't need a reason to respect and care for others, I just do. Ikonoklast May 2013 #20

As a believer I do not need an authority figure to tell me how to behave. hrmjustin May 2013 #51

And yet. Promethean May 2013 #59

I know plenty of atheists that have better morals than I. hrmjustin May 2013 #123

ah but you are 1 in a million .. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #69

Atheist scare believers. They force us to face facts about our religion. hrmjustin May 2013 #131

As a believer OwnedByCats May 2013 #166

"attack me for my beliefs" what do you mean? alp227 May 2013 #191

I'm an atheist, and I'm certainly not right wing. kurtzapril4 May 2013 #197

There is nothing right wing about it OwnedByCats May 2013 #233

So what's your point? We should not criticize others' beliefs? alp227 May 2013 #236

Hold on a minute OwnedByCats May 2013 #245

Making up fairy tales is a pretty silly way of dealing with how to face mortality MNBrewer May 2013 #250

I didn't make up fairy tales OwnedByCats May 2013 #251

How did you learn how to behave? Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #255

My parents! hrmjustin May 2013 #259

well said. nt DesertFlower May 2013 #81

They should be asked what is the genesis of their morals. LiberalFighter May 2013 #115

Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus. hrmjustin May 2013 #135

Jesus's training was based on the Jewish religion LiberalFighter May 2013 #138

Religions borrow from one another to some extent. hrmjustin May 2013 #142

Exactly! LiberalFighter May 2013 #211

Not only that, they choose to follow a religion and which one to follow. n/t cui bono May 2013 #155

Yup. If Religion was "right" mzteris May 2013 #186

Well the Ten Commandments nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #18

Oh, I know... truebluegreen May 2013 #24

Believe it or not, I thnk science is starting to unravel nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #29

"Mal-adaptive"--absolutely true. truebluegreen May 2013 #31

My nephews go to a Jewish school nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #35

Because the book is full of murderin' and sexin' and all them good things.... WCGreen May 2013 #40

"...full of interest...noble poetry, some clever fables, truebluegreen May 2013 #45

Don't forget the obscenity! pokerfan May 2013 #86

Dang! I knew I was missing something... truebluegreen May 2013 #162

"When one reads Bibles, one is less surprised at what the Deity knows than at what He doesn't know." panzerfaust May 2013 #159

Used to have a copy of Letters from the Earth, truebluegreen May 2013 #164

many who have read and promote the book.... tomp May 2013 #167

which part don't they do? selling daughters into slavery? Phillip McCleod May 2013 #200

Yup! R&K nt longship May 2013 #3

I'm not an atheist. HappyMe May 2013 #6

You mean these? randome May 2013 #10

I frown on those also. HappyMe May 2013 #13

They come in handy on a toe though. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #79

Exactly. nt Lex May 2013 #7

I can't understand why both sides in this debate upaloopa May 2013 #9

Mainly because it can directly affect them. Neoma May 2013 #43

Then fight creationism upaloopa May 2013 #47

Like they're immune to criticism? Neoma May 2013 #60

Nobody is forcing you to be Christian. Nobody upaloopa May 2013 #63

Nobody is forcing? You'd be surprised the kind of crap I've been through so I could be Christain. Neoma May 2013 #67

I am speaking to an adult I assume. upaloopa May 2013 #72

Funny enough, I don't actually go arguing with Christians if I can avoid it. Neoma May 2013 #73

i hear ya.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #76

i was raised catholic and was forced DesertFlower May 2013 #84

In my case, my mom and I were prey to her in-laws and siblings at a certain point. Neoma May 2013 #94

OMG. that's terrible. DesertFlower May 2013 #116

You have to keep this in mind I guess. Neoma May 2013 #117

i've heard about southern baptists. DesertFlower May 2013 #141

I don't think most people realize that Pat Robertson is just the tip of the iceberg. Jamastiene May 2013 #146

Pat Robertson is rich and famous Mariana May 2013 #152

People without money say those things. Neoma May 2013 #178

No. Pat Robertson is rich and famous because SomethingFishy May 2013 #221

Who says his fans are sane rational persons? Mariana May 2013 #225

I barely even try to explain anymore. I don't want that time period stuck in my head. Neoma May 2013 #175

Yet CHristians is public offices ARE forcing their beliefs on us all through legislation and policy. cleanhippie May 2013 #188

I agree 100% hrmjustin May 2013 #205

Now that I think about it. Neoma May 2013 #78

Agreed n/t ReasonableToo May 2013 #130

because religions are political institutions RainDog May 2013 #65

This may shock you but we atheists don't dwell of others beliefs much... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #89

You say you don't dwell on other beliefs upaloopa May 2013 #97

So you are saying that stating others beliefs is a belief. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #98

It is kind of hard not to think about those beliefs when they are shoved in our faces Jamastiene May 2013 #145

What is wrong with you? cleanhippie May 2013 #189

I agree that that most athiests do not OwnedByCats May 2013 #252

When I was a kid my folks got me the Time Life series "The World's Great Religions" Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #253

Well I don't agree with that either OwnedByCats May 2013 #254

I know,...terrible to indoctrinate a kid into thinking... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #257

No I meant that OwnedByCats May 2013 #260

But many don't respect your right to believe as you wish... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #261

WTF? OwnedByCats May 2013 #265

It's got it's comic elements.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #267

LOL, yep OwnedByCats May 2013 #268

What gets me is their little "seance". Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #269

Yeah I don't even know OwnedByCats May 2013 #270

You aren't supposed to "think". Just close your eyes and "feel"... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #271

Dwell, no, obsess maybe? Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #256

About what? Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #258

I don't normally LostOne4Ever May 2013 #118

Because the goded force their archaic idiocy into policy. morningfog May 2013 #122

What they think and do affects people's lives for the worse. Mariana May 2013 #150

When a pope goes to Africa ... GeorgeGist May 2013 #156

So does everyone else. silverweb May 2013 #11

and yet Buddhists are killing each other in Indonesia.. 1000s of years of Buddhist chinese emperors. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #80

You seem to repeat yourself defacto7 May 2013 #108

not at all. just taking to heart that no religion is immune from criticism.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #201

Understood and I agree... but defacto7 May 2013 #232

if these ideals have been vandalized it wasn't me.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #247

Off topic. silverweb May 2013 #109

if my reply was off-topic, was the post i was replying to off-topic? Phillip McCleod May 2013 #204

What part of 'freewill' did he forget about that his God gave him? Rex May 2013 #12

As an Atheist I have no morals. MindPilot May 2013 #14

in fact i agree that morals and ethics are distinct.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #85

Right. I choose the good morals. nt Deep13 May 2013 #15

I choose good ethics. truebluegreen May 2013 #28

Mostly instinct. Deep13 May 2013 #106

Fair enough... truebluegreen May 2013 #161

Context - What pope does this refer to? No Vested Interest May 2013 #16

makes no difference.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #95

Can I get a ruling on Red Lobster's "Shrimp Fest"? brooklynite May 2013 #17

Well, if some of our religious folks were not selective nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #19

As if. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #49

Leviticus 11 says: Mariana May 2013 #74

and that's the same wording in Levit RainDog May 2013 #92

Well, don't forget Lott and his daughters. Jamastiene May 2013 #147

a few gems RainDog May 2013 #149

and you know what the 'good' book says about abominations! Phillip McCleod May 2013 #96

That was a mistranslation by a dyslexic monk. It should read "get em stoned." alfredo May 2013 #127

hate it when that happens! Phillip McCleod May 2013 #208

The translators thought one text said the Red Sea, but it alfredo May 2013 #222

LOL RainDog May 2013 #88

""Human beings, all over the earth, have this curious idea that they ought to behave in a certain wa LanternWaste May 2013 #21

So he thinks it is preferable edhopper May 2013 #22

Well at least his dress hides his ruby slippers. n/t A Simple Game May 2013 #32

nice! :) CarrieLynne May 2013 #23

The funny thing is that religious people also pick & choose their morals. backscatter712 May 2013 #25

Don't even have to go into different books. jeff47 May 2013 #38

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey May 2013 #272

Who on earth doesn't pick and choose their morals? What an imbecilic statement. Squinch May 2013 #26

most of the.world would disagree. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #99

But Catholics are big on free will and choosing the right path. So though they think Squinch May 2013 #102

correction.. *some* catholics.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #105

No. I'm talking about Catholic dogma. It's kind of in the rules. Squinch May 2013 #107

EVERYONE does! elleng May 2013 #27

Yes, it's important to pick good morels and not get poisonous mushrooms. Arugula Latte May 2013 #30

Are you kidding? "Revelations" is nothing if not someone's extremely negative Warren DeMontague May 2013 #33

not psilocybin .. that's the golden calf.. poop storm phallus. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #101

thank you for a funny one with a perfect ending smallcat88 May 2013 #46

Moral relativism=morality based on who gets hurt. Moral absolutism=morality based on the Cloud Guy Bucky May 2013 #34

I follow that guy on twitter amuse bouche May 2013 #36

PREACH IT!!!! Skittles May 2013 #37

Pope joke. Fuddnik May 2013 #41

I just laughed so hard I startled my husband. KentuckyWoman May 2013 #126

my joke: tomp May 2013 #172

Excellent.. the Pope walked right into that one. Cha May 2013 #42

and the Vatican doesn't?! smallcat88 May 2013 #44

What smallcat said. lindysalsagal May 2013 #144

K&R forestpath May 2013 #48

Hmmm ok I guess gollygee May 2013 #50

Sacre bleu! Manifestor_of_Light May 2013 #52

Can you cite John2 May 2013 #187

uh huh. Jesus never advocated cruelty or violence. Please read the following verses. Manifestor_of_Light May 2013 #230

everyone chooses their morals madrchsod May 2013 #53

I agree with you. leftyladyfrommo May 2013 #114

The way I see it...athiests are less prone to hypocrisy Sheepshank May 2013 #54

Very interesting observation... agracie May 2013 #64

true. we don't have to pick and choose from a book.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #210

I refuse to support the thinking of archaic, ancient institutions who don't change with the times. Initech May 2013 #55

People are supposed to let the Roman Catholic Church choose their morals... Make7 May 2013 #56

I'm having an oddly emotional day libodem May 2013 #57

I will also choose not to obxhead May 2013 #58

Which Pope? NCarolinawoman May 2013 #61

I also located sources from Sept. 2010 No Vested Interest May 2013 #77

Apparently, many people here don't care which pope said this; NCarolinawoman May 2013 #133

Francis said gay people are an attack on God. How's that? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #139

Christian morality is highly suspect jmowreader May 2013 #62

Here. hrmjustin May 2013 #136

U bet we do. roamer65 May 2013 #66

Christian Morals???? penndragon69 May 2013 #71

It Is No Wonder 1ProudAtheist May 2013 #75

didn't one of the other popes criticize DesertFlower May 2013 #82

Good thing we're not talkin' about them Muslims or the Koran ... Bake May 2013 #83

Oh sure,...because tossing Christians to the lions is fun. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #90

You're talking about the pope, right? Mariana May 2013 #143

Got a link to that papal quote? rug May 2013 #87

No, but this actual quote is an appalling ironic gem: Warren Stupidity May 2013 #103

Close but no cigar. rug May 2013 #104

Ratzinger was saying atheism = nazi RainDog May 2013 #148

Why that's as bad as saying Ratzinger = Nazi. rug May 2013 #171

The irony, I suppose, is a member of Hitler Youth RainDog May 2013 #173

The irony is calling a 14 year old drafted into the Hitler Youth as Germny collapsed a nazi. rug May 2013 #174

Irony is a Democrat defending homophobia and sexism RainDog May 2013 #176

Really? Pray tell, who is doing that? rug May 2013 #177

Don't read it, then RainDog May 2013 #180

Bravo, now you're wrapping your personal hostility in the flag of equality. rug May 2013 #181

keep waiting, then n/t RainDog May 2013 #182

for the record RainDog May 2013 #193

That almost certainly was the speech that was being responding to muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #153

Dear Pope, HockeyMom May 2013 #91

Thanks for your powerful post. nt SunSeeker May 2013 #111

So what's his problem? SammyWinstonJack May 2013 #93

I have always thought most of our "morality" was inborn rurallib May 2013 #100

or their Niceguy1 May 2013 #110

Studies have indicated that very small children have a concept of fairness RainDog May 2013 #112

Ethics seems to be somewhat inhernet Scootaloo May 2013 #151

Those are the words of Pope Child Molester Protector Ratzinger. Dawson Leery May 2013 #113

Yes, RATZINGER's words, apparently. NCarolinawoman May 2013 #124

K&R burnodo May 2013 #119

Now that the Catholics have their "beard", the pretend Pope Francis.... Walk away May 2013 #120

Ratzinger said this, from what I can tell. NCarolinawoman May 2013 #128

I'm not surprised. I doubt that they will ever allow Saint Francis go... Walk away May 2013 #132

Best way for me as an agnostic/atheist is for people to simply get to know me..... tpsbmam May 2013 #125

This may be a good time for an oldie but goodie - The Letter to Dr. Laura: LiberalElite May 2013 #129

The 613 commandments pokerfan May 2013 #137

Yeah, whatever. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #140

Pope told me: Jesus ordered me to hate you! I will do it! I hate you! I hate you!` Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #154

I choose to have nothing to do with the pope jopacaco May 2013 #163

I don't give a rat's ass... 99Forever May 2013 #165

Everyone, religious and atheist alike, can choose to use the Oxford comma. (nt) harmonicon May 2013 #169

So do Christians caseymoz May 2013 #184

Not all of us! hrmjustin May 2013 #227

Yes, all of you. caseymoz May 2013 #231

Not all Christians believe the same thing. hrmjustin May 2013 #238

And you're missing my point. caseymoz May 2013 #246

That is not true for all Christians. hrmjustin May 2013 #249

That's right, Pope. OnionPatch May 2013 #185

Even Popes pick their own morals. Jeez. Zen Democrat May 2013 #190

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welcome, troll RainDog May 2013 #194

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No, Kierkegaard makes that claim RainDog May 2013 #209

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okaaaaay RainDog May 2013 #214

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So you don't support a woman's right to choose, then? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #223

try of to do other things RainDog May 2013 #242

Apprarently MIRT took notice of him Warren DeMontague May 2013 #244

So when Greeks believed in Poseidon, or Celts believed in the mother goddess, or Rainforest Tribes Warren DeMontague May 2013 #226

Oh really now, John2 May 2013 #216

Not believing in God is due to indoctrination while believing is "philosofical thought"? uppityperson May 2013 #196

"The try of science to prove"? Fumesucker May 2013 #207

there is no try Warren DeMontague May 2013 #224

We could start with the Spanish Inquisition; hiding santamargarita May 2013 #195

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Just Like the way you just took "an event" and used it to make your claim without facts? TeamPooka May 2013 #217

I'm not sure where your coming from? santamargarita May 2013 #228

And Christians pick and choose, too. There are homophobic, anti-abortion ... marble falls May 2013 #198

sounds like they'd make good Bishops nt markiv May 2013 #203

and so does everyone else gejohnston May 2013 #219

Religions do not have morals, they have religious rules and dogma they call morals. Maineman May 2013 #220

+1 Buzz Clik May 2013 #235