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In reply to the discussion: Egyptian TV Host Riham Said REMOVES VEIL During Interview, CLASHES With Guest Cleric Yousuf Badri [View all]bettyellen
(47,209 posts)85. truly, for some- this has been just a fun way of nursing their grudges.
and no, it was never about whether they enjoy looking at women's bodies. (I think that's a given. )
That was a twisted variation on the "feminists here are man haters" theme the same people like to put out there. We also got a good dose of the "white women's problems" BS. Do you think it's a coincidence that the same exact group of guys who disrupt threads discussing feminist issues here on a regular basis suddenly swarmed to celebrate this topless protest? I sure as hell don't. They saw some dissent over whether it was wise or effective, and jumped right in. It was because they'd like to administer a feminist purity test, and flunk us, demoting us to "feminists". LOL. No one told her to sit down and shut up, for fuck's sake. People merely though it was unwise or ineffective.
Talk about entitled bullshit, referring to women here as "feminists".
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Egyptian TV Host Riham Said REMOVES VEIL During Interview, CLASHES With Guest Cleric Yousuf Badri [View all]
Segami
May 2013
OP
How long until the "feminists" demand we stop being Western Imperialists for cheering this woman!
backscatter712
May 2013
#1
oh, so you were airing personal issues with something ONE DUer might have said, thanks!
bettyellen
May 2013
#9
a small number -like one? that is the same DUer. And that is a well written, very reasonable post.
bettyellen
May 2013
#13
Insulting fellow DUers, smearing feminists here with this bullshit that is actually a grudge against
bettyellen
May 2013
#21
just sorting out the nonsense that this is any more than some fight with one DUer you got going on
bettyellen
May 2013
#28
It is precisely this immature and bombastic approach that makes people take issue with...
bettyellen
May 2013
#55
civil disobedience is great, saying you totally disrespect entire populations of humanity- that you
bettyellen
May 2013
#61
Because they demanded that FEMEN and Amina stop protesting in the way they felt was right.
backscatter712
May 2013
#64
When they're telling a woman protesting for her rights to sit down and shut up, that's misogyny.
backscatter712
May 2013
#67
talk about whether methods of protests are wise and useful happens all the fucking time among
bettyellen
May 2013
#72
the whole Femen thing was manufactured as an excuse for some guys here to administer a feminist
bettyellen
May 2013
#90
You are right, it was manufactured by few self-proclaimed "feminists" here to dictate what
idwiyo
May 2013
#94
YAY!!! Another person who think they have telepathic powers! How come you didn't notice some of them
idwiyo
May 2013
#164
OMG, I didnt see that before now. So certain men on DU made up Femen and Amina?!?!? ROFLMAO!
stevenleser
May 2013
#177
Would be nice if you learnt the difference between anti-Muslim and anti-Islamist. That is if you
idwiyo
May 2013
#112
And once again you misrepresent what was actually said. Poster did not say "all" DUers and they
idwiyo
May 2013
#107
Every patriarchal religion insults women. Confessed to a Catholic priestess lately?
aquart
May 2013
#105
The real test of sexism: what happens to a woman who 'chooses' not to adhere to a 'holy' dress code.
ancianita
May 2013
#135
Same poster told me I was a bigot if I could not see that the Catholic Chruch is a 'haven for gay
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#65
there's a chain of deletions by two posters, fairly obviously they both chose to delete an exchange
HiPointDem
May 2013
#128
When we see a similar pushback against Christian ministers and priests here on women issues.
Skidmore
May 2013
#10
Some of us were encouraging Amina and FEMEN when they did their protests.
backscatter712
May 2013
#17
If there is one thing Amina and FEMEN need, it's a man's approval for their way of thinking.
ZombieHorde
May 2013
#20
It wasn't the (non-scare-quoted) feminists that were demanding that Amina put her hijab back on.
backscatter712
May 2013
#58
links to DUers telling Amina to sit down and shut up please.... and hopefully there will be text
bettyellen
May 2013
#87
Every single one of self-proclaimed "REAL" feminists who was up in arms because FEMEN protest
idwiyo
May 2013
#95
saying you are "not shockingly grateful" does NOT equal "shut up and sit down"- not by ANY stretch..
bettyellen
May 2013
#139
calling it a 'stunt' and claiming to be concerned about it affecting Tunisian elections
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#144
I totally think it was a stunt, but I support her RIGHT to do it. See how that works?
bettyellen
May 2013
#146
When did whether it's a 'right' come into this? This is about telling her
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#148
having an opinion about it, is NOT the same as telling her to sit down and shut up at all.
bettyellen
May 2013
#150
I can see you're embarrassed by DUers being the westerners telling Amina what she should do
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#151
no, I think it's a great topic for debate. and that many here are full of shit portraying it as
bettyellen
May 2013
#153
I did an experiment with a thread, demonstrating how UNconcerned DUers really are
riderinthestorm
May 2013
#152
aww, a bit jealous your thread got so little attention? I've also heard women here were jealous of
bettyellen
May 2013
#154
well jealousy about not getting attention was on your mind when posting about your sunken thread....
bettyellen
May 2013
#156
you seriously think the number of replies your thread got says anything about anyone here?
bettyellen
May 2013
#170
well, approval and interest from men is paramount! if we don't please them by showing our tits then
bettyellen
May 2013
#25
They are very skilful of creating their own imaginary fiends. Or making up stuff about
idwiyo
May 2013
#97
Rule #1 when dealing with these characters: Call out their tactics. n/t
backscatter712
May 2013
#102
I think they were explaining we don't need to seek their approval and get a pat on the back.
bettyellen
May 2013
#41
no, just dozens of guys offering their approval and patting a feminist on the back for the first
bettyellen
May 2013
#78
not talking to you. why would I bother when you make accusations that you cannot back up?
bettyellen
May 2013
#101
Of course you don't want to talk to *me*. Last time you didn't either. You talked to your imaginary
idwiyo
May 2013
#103
So, any man who stands with Amina or FEMEN are "patting a feminist on the back"? You sure
idwiyo
May 2013
#118
My bad! Read it as "any man out of the dozens you are talking about". Is that better? :)
idwiyo
May 2013
#166
Yup, which is exactly what male posters here do when they call us "feminists".... what bullshit.
bettyellen
May 2013
#51
and many just love an opportunity to exploit these differences of opinion for sport
bettyellen
May 2013
#99
except quite a few of Amina's most ardent supporters were faking it- they could not hazard a guess
bettyellen
May 2013
#111
More ASSumptions. How do you know they were "faking it"? Telepathic mind read? Or more likely
idwiyo
May 2013
#113
Yes, unless the opinion also involves telling women how to be proper feminists.
ZombieHorde
May 2013
#162
When a man refers to some women feminists as feminists, and other women feminists as "feminists,"
ZombieHorde
May 2013
#167
I think we established that I have neither distorted your position nor put words in your mouth. nt
ZombieHorde
May 2013
#83
I have not accused anyone here of being racist, and I have not mentioned Mardi Gras.
ZombieHorde
May 2013
#93
Not you specifically. But another person did, and made a spectacular ass of herself. n/t
backscatter712
May 2013
#104
The problem is that you have no idea what you are saying. You're making it up as you go along
stevenleser
May 2013
#178
Please point out something bad I have said about FEMEN and their supporters.
ZombieHorde
May 2013
#179
There is no conspiracy by male DUers to dictate to anyone who is and isn't a feminist.
idwiyo
May 2013
#125
I thought about that too, or pulling that hat off his head. Costumes signifying nothing.
freshwest
May 2013
#88
I really wish we could discard all this pointless packaging and try to see each other, instead.
randome
May 2013
#31
she made a wonderful point that if she covered up, it would be for God, and not him.
bettyellen
May 2013
#32
She's great. Called on his foolishness, he plays the victim! Typical blowhard conservative tantrum.
freshwest
May 2013
#84
1) not a veil. 2) apparently what she did was ok with the tv station. 3) this seems to be
HiPointDem
May 2013
#126