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LostOne4Ever

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104. Again

Sat May 4, 2013, 06:03 PM

May 2013

Kucinich supported Obama and the Democratic party.

Same with Feingold and Bradley. We should not be cannibalizing our own. Rather we should be united and support the democratic party. The fringe on the left isn't those who hold liberal views but those who demand 100% ideological purity or they won't vote for the Democratic party and discourage others form doing so.

People who enable Republicans to win like Nader are the fringe. They walk the walk, but then take actions that directly hurt those ideals by enabling republicans. All of the people you just listed did not do that. They have all asked their supporters to rally around the democratic party. We should support those who are willing to put their ideology aside and do what is necessary to win the elections. We need to be united not divided.

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LGBT activist Robert Pinter-"the fringe left is just as strident as the tea party on the right" [View all] graham4anything May 2013 OP

Cherry picked quote. Provide the link. Bonobo May 2013 #1

Discuss the (c) quote please. I can understand why those that hate a 80-20 world would. graham4anything May 2013 #3

Your 80-20 nonsense is meaningless and has no basis in fact. Bonobo May 2013 #6

the quote means exactly what I said it means. But have a nice Saturday. Sunny & warm. graham4anything May 2013 #8

why should anyone take your word for that??? cali May 2013 #19

Can you help me out? Who was it that said: MannyGoldstein May 2013 #41

I've brought that point up to him before he finds a way to contort it and dismiss saying we don't Arcanetrance May 2013 #50

the person who better said "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" graham4anything May 2013 #71

And what makes one quote better than the other? nt MannyGoldstein May 2013 #78

He was referring in both to using all methods to stop extremists from taking away our republic graham4anything May 2013 #79

And you're the one that wants to disregard certain sections of the BoR. nt. premium May 2013 #89

LGBT rights used to be considered very "fringe" as well. Had it not been for the Left, progress leveymg May 2013 #48

Are you a Scientologist? a la izquierda May 2013 #87

OMFG, premium May 2013 #88

You are right about the 80-20 split.... madinmaryland May 2013 #97

The fringe right now encompasses most of the right... CJCRANE May 2013 #2

The fringe on the left the OP is talking about Bonobo May 2013 #5

Ron & Rand Paul/David Duke/Dennis Kucinich now are working as one in the same fringe group. graham4anything May 2013 #9

Can you tell me how Dennis Kucinich is working with Ron & Rand Paul/David Duke? Autumn May 2013 #63

In a new lobby group that Ron Paul started (or whatever wording Ron Paul used.) Dennis is member graham4anything May 2013 #66

Obama had had meetings and a dinner with Boehner and other fringe lunatics on the right, Autumn May 2013 #74

And Elizabeth Warren was republican and voted for Reagan and one of the Bush's. graham4anything May 2013 #77

Cite? Union Scribe May 2013 #86

And, Hillary was a Goldwater Girl Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #94

i married a goldwater girl! madrchsod May 2013 #105

Again LostOne4Ever May 2013 #104

Why not say this to the 13 people that weekly make 100s of anti-Obama posts and anti- graham4anything May 2013 #107

Thats what i have been doing LostOne4Ever May 2013 #109

I disagree totally. The fringe IN OFFICE on the right, not the 80-20 people themselves. graham4anything May 2013 #7

why should 5% hijack a party? 5% get way more than 5% should get attention wise. graham4anything May 2013 #16

yawn KG May 2013 #4

except you posted an ugly picture to distract, and didn't argue it at all.(oops). graham4anything May 2013 #10

apropos pic cali May 2013 #12

YOU actually think you get to tell people what is and isn't relevant? Fuck that cali May 2013 #11

it's irrelevant to the conversation. graham4anything May 2013 #13

oh no. YOU don't get to tell me what to do. Ever. cali May 2013 #25

Did you vote for Jerry Brown in 1992? graham4anything May 2013 #27

what does that have to do with..... anything? cali May 2013 #30

that would be telling. graham4anything May 2013 #69

You mean that guy who is a very good Democratic governor of our largest state? Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #80

Apparently, to this guy, voting for Jerry Brown premium May 2013 #91

Is this the same Kris Kristofferson who decorates his vocal booth..... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #67

Bacon... Pelican May 2013 #14

Without Louis Armstrong and Bing Crosby and Duke Ellington, there would be zippo Pop music today. graham4anything May 2013 #28

zippo pop music. something else that only exists in your..... mind. cali May 2013 #31

one could say Billy Murray and Henry Burr, but you would just say WHO? (not the actor) graham4anything May 2013 #35

What is to gain by going to the center? LostOne4Ever May 2013 #15

a very big point is missing graham4anything May 2013 #18

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #23

if the above is true, why do you get so steaming mad and not just ignore it and look the other way? graham4anything May 2013 #26

your historical revisionism, garbage predictions, slamming of the left cali May 2013 #32

Kucinich LostOne4Ever May 2013 #40

Yeah, that's why the Republican party is so moderate these days Fumesucker May 2013 #20

the powers in the republican party are not the people itself(i.e. our neighbors in real life) graham4anything May 2013 #22

put down your murky crystal ball cali May 2013 #24

Obamacare will be fully engaged by 2016 Fumesucker May 2013 #29

Thanks for the link LostOne4Ever May 2013 #45

without compromise, one wouldn't have gotten FDR or LBJ, nor Lincoln's getting rid of slavery. graham4anything May 2013 #37

Totally agree! LostOne4Ever May 2013 #43

Village Voice OKNancy May 2013 #17

yes, and I am/was going to post it as a lead OP, or you can. graham4anything May 2013 #21

The quote is by a bitter old hag... trumad May 2013 #33

but he is 100% correct. Truer words were never spoken. graham4anything May 2013 #34

You really have to quit making pronouncements that you are 100 percent correct. trumad May 2013 #36

just the vocal fringe. 9 out of 10 times, the same exact people each and every time, right? graham4anything May 2013 #38

80-20...snarf trumad May 2013 #47

I haven't seen you win anything pintobean May 2013 #46

word salads neverforget May 2013 #75

btw-do you consider a person in their 50's old?Please explain the meaning of response #33 graham4anything May 2013 #39

I'm in my fifties... and I'm fucking old. trumad May 2013 #44

At least "the fringe left" is not about "corporations are people." Discuss THAT. WinkyDink May 2013 #42

Ralph Nader & Electing Nixon, Reagan, Ford, Bush,Bush and in 2016 Jeb got you that. graham4anything May 2013 #49

80/20? Is this a real thing? toddaa May 2013 #51

May I ask a question after reading through these comments Arcanetrance May 2013 #52

Had to look him up, he's a NYC writer, not an activist and I'd never heard of him at all. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #53

I gotta laugh, but shall do so silently. graham4anything May 2013 #55

Where is a link to the quote you make? Where is Mr Pinter's bio? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #57

Yup... SidDithers May 2013 #54

Yup again. graham4anything May 2013 #60

Yup whatchamacallit May 2013 #90

Like you and MadHound, right?.., SidDithers May 2013 #92

Wrong whatchamacallit May 2013 #96

Who was tombed, Sid? Number23 May 2013 #110

Far left? What far left? Who is far left? burnodo May 2013 #56

LBJ was the left back then, and the left left LBJ behind in 1968 to get what? Nixon. graham4anything May 2013 #62

Hey! Hey! LBJ. How many kids did you kill today? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #65

yawn. That is so boring. You have written that many times.Protesters gave us Nixon. graham4anything May 2013 #68

Do you include RFK and McCarthy in the "Fringe left"? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #70

I doubt YOU would think RFK was as he was into wiretapping people like Dr. King. graham4anything May 2013 #76

Do you consider RFK and McCarthy the "Fringe Left"? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #82

The left left LBJ behind burnodo May 2013 #73

''In space no one hears their extreme shouting'' Whisp May 2013 #58

"Fringe centrists" annoy me more than anyone Bjorn Against May 2013 #59

Bullshit the fringe left gopiscrap May 2013 #61

horse. shit. spanone May 2013 #64

Yes, waiter, I'll have the word salad. With nuts. nt Union Scribe May 2013 #72

And a couple of Advil. This guy's writing makes my head hurt. curlyred May 2013 #95

Fringe SamKnause May 2013 #81

I'm as liberal as the next guy, Jamaal510 May 2013 #83

You really hate the "fringe left," don't you? Apophis May 2013 #84

If I want word salad, I'll go watch Fox and wait for some Sarah Palin coverage hatrack May 2013 #85

Yeah, how dare the "fringe" left be "strident"... SomethingFishy May 2013 #93

Can you explain what the hell the fringe left is?? madinmaryland May 2013 #98

It's anything Mr. 80/20 Hillary is The Messiah says it is. hobbit709 May 2013 #100

they will be Observers not smiling when by proclamation of Hillary is the nominee in 2016. graham4anything May 2013 #108

If you don't stand for something, you're graham4anything. HughBeaumont May 2013 #99

Reminds me of HiFructoseWhateverhisnamewas... SomethingFishy May 2013 #101

Wow. What a memory. I had to look them up, they haven't posted since 2006. nt stevenleser May 2013 #106

... idwiyo May 2013 #102

What, you mean like insisting on preserving things like s.s. with no compromise? pa28 May 2013 #103