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In reply to the discussion: I'm for gun control and pit bull control. [View all]baldguy
(36,649 posts)81. There's acually a place taht does study these - the National Canine Research Council.
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/
They look at news reports of deaths due to dog bites, the circumstances of the incidents, how the owner treated the dog, the relationship of the victim to the dog, whether criminal charges were filed and why, and breed attribution when possible. The most most recent report available is from 2011:
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/2011%20Final%20Investigative%20DBRF%20Report.pdf
For most of the incidents reported, the section for breed attribution has the same text: "The media reported the dogs as pit bull dogs. NCRC was unable to obtain any evidence or documentation from the owner or authorities that substantiate the breed. NCRC did obtain photographs of the dogs. NCRC submitted the photographs to NCRCs expert advisor who concluded the breed(s) of the dogs could not be reasonably determined from the photographs."
The final paragraph in the conclusion of the report says it best:
These rare tragedies remind us that all dog owners have an unequivocal responsibility for the humane care (including proper diet, veterinary care, socialization and training), custody (including licensing and microchipping), and control of their dogs.
Guns are entirely different. They have manufacturers, the capabilities of a whole series of guns of a particular model can be determined by testing one example of that model.
They look at news reports of deaths due to dog bites, the circumstances of the incidents, how the owner treated the dog, the relationship of the victim to the dog, whether criminal charges were filed and why, and breed attribution when possible. The most most recent report available is from 2011:
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/2011%20Final%20Investigative%20DBRF%20Report.pdf
For most of the incidents reported, the section for breed attribution has the same text: "The media reported the dogs as pit bull dogs. NCRC was unable to obtain any evidence or documentation from the owner or authorities that substantiate the breed. NCRC did obtain photographs of the dogs. NCRC submitted the photographs to NCRCs expert advisor who concluded the breed(s) of the dogs could not be reasonably determined from the photographs."
The final paragraph in the conclusion of the report says it best:
These rare tragedies remind us that all dog owners have an unequivocal responsibility for the humane care (including proper diet, veterinary care, socialization and training), custody (including licensing and microchipping), and control of their dogs.
Guns are entirely different. They have manufacturers, the capabilities of a whole series of guns of a particular model can be determined by testing one example of that model.
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I dont' want to live with guns all around me, and people telling me I need one to keep myself
boston bean
May 2013
#3
And further, NO defender of pits has or ever would make the argument this person claimed.
PeaceNikki
May 2013
#7
"Next thing you'll hear from pit bull owners, is that we all need one to keep ourselves safe...
PeaceNikki
May 2013
#11
Unless you've actually heard that argument made, it's bullshit hyperbole. Not "flair".
PeaceNikki
May 2013
#15
Yes, because it is know that men with mustaches and red tshirts are known attackers....
blueamy66
May 2013
#70
And a gun can't be trained. How safe it is depends on the individual who's carrying it.
baldguy
May 2013
#31
If, god forbid, my Pit Bull ever fell into the hands of an irresponsible human, she would suffer.
baldguy
May 2013
#50
You're contradicting yourself & now you're trying to squirm out from under the pile of shit you left
baldguy
May 2013
#115
If they require special training & socialization, why shouldn't they be more tightly regulated?
Orrex
May 2013
#37
All dogs need proper training & socialization. You're the one singling out Pit Bulls.
baldguy
May 2013
#54
We are in agreement then. Dog owners should be responsible for the actions their dogs.
baldguy
May 2013
#66
There's acually a place taht does study these - the National Canine Research Council.
baldguy
May 2013
#81
So you support the little bastard daschshund who demolished my kale last week?
Scootaloo
May 2013
#93
I think many problems around guns and hyper-aggresive dogs can be traced back to similar stuff
Warren DeMontague
May 2013
#116