Egyptian TV Host Riham Said REMOVES VEIL During Interview, CLASHES With Guest Cleric Yousuf Badri

[RainDog]

169. I think that came about

because some people here were defending muslim women who said FEMEN didn't speak for them and they were applauded for this (they had signs saying extolling their modesty, etc.) and others noted the irony in the position that a woman was operating from true consciousness to wear the veil and attack FEMEN, but women who chose to be immodest were operating from false consciousness (this is not limited to FEMEN's actions, but also to issues of sex workers, etc.)

The back and forth was about men participating in a thread showing support for women who bared their breasts and making jokes about their interest in seeing the pictures and women saying these guys only care about women's issues if a woman bares her breasts.

Others noted that, agree or not, they brought attention to Amina. And, the reality is that they have also done things that are "blasphemous" regarding other religion, too, again, while topless.

So, the reason for the quotes was what some saw as selective approval of actions that, conveniently, aligned with previous disagreements about how women use their bodies, whether for protest, employment, etc.

Of course, the elephant in the room in all that is the reality that capitalism determines many people's choices and creates situations that replicate religious "whore/madonna" labels for women.

There were various threads, but this one pretty much laid out the airing of grievances portion of our DU celebration of women.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2663197