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Xithras

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109. How would you define a 'progressive' 2A group?

Mon May 6, 2013, 12:23 PM

May 2013

Only 10% of gun owners are NRA members. The other 90% have better things to do with their time, mostly because they support their rights to own guns but not the political agenda that goes along with NRA membership.

So, if you wanted to create a "progressive" 2A group to appeal to the other 90%, what would they stand for?

I'm asking because I'm genuinely curious. I'm one of those 90%, and I've thought about this before myself. I can't figure out what the platform would be... "We support gun rights...and....?"

The only attempt at creating a "liberal" gun rights organization was the AHSA, but it was more "liberal" and less "gun organization". Gun owners weren't going to join a 2A group that supported just about every gun control and gun seizure law that had been proposed at the time. It promptly died for obvious reasons.

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If you are a pro-gun DUer, what are you doing to oppose the NRA? [View all] cali May 2013 OP

Not A Gun Owner - Nor A NRA Member - Shunning And Shaming Every NRA Member I Meet cantbeserious May 2013 #1

Unless they tell you, premium May 2013 #6

People Are Eager To Share Their Hobbies cantbeserious May 2013 #9

That hasn't been my experience, premium May 2013 #10

Hobby doesn't equal membership NutmegYankee May 2013 #12

Get'em Talking - The Topic Will Come Up cantbeserious May 2013 #16

Are you an NRA member? ellisonz May 2013 #29

No, premium May 2013 #34

Gun culture - whether formal NRA members or free-riders - still gladly benefit from these Hoyt May 2013 #81

So predictable Hoyt, premium May 2013 #87

you need some new material snooper2 May 2013 #102

You need a new hobby/cause besides guns. Hoyt May 2013 #105

GUN GUN GUN GUN GUN GUNG GUNG DUNG DUNG dung? snooper2 May 2013 #107

zzzzz Katashi_itto May 2013 #108

Evidently, nothing. russspeakeasy May 2013 #2

yeah, the response from our pro-gun compratiots here, is underwhelming. cali May 2013 #4

I don't belong to this group, premium May 2013 #8

They all do the same things: anti-gunners and pro--gunners who are liberals. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #39

Not being a member??? ileus May 2013 #3

How about starting one? cali May 2013 #5

How would you define a 'progressive' 2A group? Xithras May 2013 #109

I'm not doing anything, premium May 2013 #7

Voting for democrats The Straight Story May 2013 #11

Years and years of GOTV and electing Democrats in Western Va. NutmegYankee May 2013 #13

Not a member and I vote for Democrats. rrneck May 2013 #14

I joined the NRA. aikoaiko May 2013 #15

"if it weren't for the NRA I wouldn't be able to own most my firearms." ellisonz May 2013 #33

not a single one of either.. SQUEE May 2013 #35

I've had weapons since I was.... rppper May 2013 #96

About 7 out 10 of my current firearms are configured or use would be banned accessories. aikoaiko May 2013 #45

And what would the effect on your life be if you weren't able to own these? n/t ellisonz May 2013 #89

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #100

5 years ago when you joined the NRA they were saying the same "bad things" about Obama. Robb May 2013 #41

I would say it got worse for the second election aikoaiko May 2013 #42

They worked against Democrats in 2008. And in 2012. Robb May 2013 #48

Not against Democrats who were better than their opponents. aikoaiko May 2013 #50

At what? Robb May 2013 #54

Supporting the 2nd Amendment. aikoaiko May 2013 #55

They support Republicans overwhelmingly. Robb May 2013 #58

Yes I can understand why that is troubling. aikoaiko May 2013 #61

So you're a one issue guy, supporting the other side Robb May 2013 #63

Not at all. I vote Democrat in almost every case. aikoaiko May 2013 #64

You want the Democrats to be more like NRA-approved Republicans? Robb May 2013 #66

Independent of what republicans do, I'd like to see Democrats take gun bans off the table so.. aikoaiko May 2013 #68

they just called the Civil War the "War of Northern Aggression". if you haven't left by now... CreekDog May 2013 #92

Yet, you remain a member. Your money directly supports their actions. Thanks for helping to morningfog May 2013 #75

Technically my dues don't support the Institute for Legislative Action branch of the NRA. aikoaiko May 2013 #82

Technically your distinction is meaningless. morningfog May 2013 #84

I'm sure it is to you. aikoaiko May 2013 #85

Except they do in all but the most literal sense jeff47 May 2013 #88

You do have a point. I'm uneasy with my membership. aikoaiko May 2013 #111

And you think Wayne LaPierre and right wing Board don't call the shots. Hoyt May 2013 #103

I support these guys gejohnston May 2013 #17

Pro gun DUer should be an oxymoron Uzair May 2013 #18

That is, of course, pure bullshit. I'm a gun owner who wouldn't piss on Wayne LaPierre if ... 11 Bravo May 2013 #25

Hilarious Uzair May 2013 #44

I roll up my pants just to visit here anymore Deb May 2013 #57

Nothin' like eating your own kind. nt Honeycombe8 May 2013 #40

Not if they're actually not your kind. n/t Cali_Democrat May 2013 #59

I bet you're lots of laughs at a party! Give me a smile . Come on, now. Gimme a smile. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #70

LOL Cali_Democrat May 2013 #72

Thanks for presenting the ideological totalitarian viewpoint. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #106

I am flummoxed by what appears to be support for the NRA by many here etherealtruth May 2013 #19

Voting for Democrats. nt hack89 May 2013 #20

But you're still a member of the NRA, which works to defeat Democrats. baldguy May 2013 #31

Bookmarked! ellisonz May 2013 #90

Damn good question, Cali. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #21

Fair question sarisataka May 2013 #22

Does the NRA support other RW causes? kudzu22 May 2013 #23

LOL. Now we have one claiming that the NRA isn't a right wing lobby Uzair May 2013 #24

They support Republicans for office BainsBane May 2013 #26

They do support pro-gun democrats kudzu22 May 2013 #27

25 Dems to 236 Republicans BainsBane May 2013 #30

I hear they have a couple black guys, too. baldguy May 2013 #32

You know the nra are bff with groups who DO support Blue_Tires May 2013 #37

They ARE a RW cause - they worked tirelessly to stop Obama being re-elected muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #73

Do you support the NRA? A member? morningfog May 2013 #76

Yes, they support all right-wing causes by funding right-wing candidates. Bjorn Against May 2013 #80

Yes. Look at their board- Norquist, Bolton, North, Nugent, gun profiteers, Hoyt May 2013 #104

Offer training, advice and range time SQUEE May 2013 #28

It is the leadership of the NRA that is the problem. louis-t May 2013 #36

Yes. The responsible gun owners in the NRA SHOULD be calling out the leadership. truebluegreen May 2013 #51

Probably what you do. First and foremost: vote Democratic. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #38

Exactly so. n/t AverageJoe90 May 2013 #47

I am an NRA member that votes for board members... Stretch714 May 2013 #43

Good luck with that then, my friend. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #46

"I'm gonna change the system from the INSIDE!!11" Robb May 2013 #49

Are you a weapons manufacturer making billions of dollars in profit each year? baldguy May 2013 #52

So we should just give up and not try to change things? Stretch714 May 2013 #65

Did you ever watch Babylon 5? baldguy May 2013 #74

Well, there you go! That's somethin'. A vote. Nothing more powerful. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #71

Thank you for your enabling obstructionist, regressive assholes. morningfog May 2013 #77

Do you pay membership dues? Bjorn Against May 2013 #86

Never allowed a gun in my home... Frustratedlady May 2013 #53

What am I supposed to do besides not belong? I'm doing what I am doing to stop child abuse, TheKentuckian May 2013 #56

Any DUer that supports the NRA should be promptly tombstoned Cali_Democrat May 2013 #60

I don't know why this isn't the policy. morningfog May 2013 #78

Not being a member and supporting things they oppose sir pball May 2013 #62

Poor thing. Are you so "marginalized" that you won't vote Dem? Switching to repug? morningfog May 2013 #79

I guess you missed where I vote straight D sir pball May 2013 #95

I boycott 'em. n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #67

I know a lot of gun owners, but I don't know any NRA members. Autumn May 2013 #69

The NRA doesn't speak for me..... Historic NY May 2013 #83

i quit the nra when they started selling ak47`s as hunting rifles madrchsod May 2013 #91

The NRA sells AK-47's? AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #94

If you buy a gun or ammunition, the NRA gets their cut mwrguy May 2013 #93

Personally? Voting for the Democrat regardless of his stance on gun control Recursion May 2013 #97

I think this is a good question Cali. NCTraveler May 2013 #98

the NRA just demonstrated again at their convention G_j May 2013 #99

Pro 2A, I don't even own a gun. Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #101

I'm pro-gun control, and I have a closet-full of guns. Paladin May 2013 #110