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The pope says atheists pick and choose their morals. This is correct. [View all] WillParkinson May 2013 OP

That statement is ripe for endless ridicule as in the pic you posted! randome May 2013 #1

Not by thinking, rational people amuse bouche May 2013 #39

+1 JRLeft May 2013 #68

+1,000,000 ISW May 2013 #70

What do you mean? morningfog May 2013 #121

I referred to the Pope's statement, not the counter statement. randome May 2013 #168

Got it. morningfog May 2013 #170

So is your response to it...more so, infact. Sekhmets Daughter May 2013 #134

Pope Francis extended a hand to those who don't belong to any religion, Katashi_itto May 2013 #157

The Pope can go fuck himself. Until he turns over the child rapists he's harboring stopbush May 2013 #179

Welcome to ignore..my family was actually touched by that. Katashi_itto May 2013 #183

Welcome to "meh." Drinking the feel-good bullshit coming from the enablers of child rapists stopbush May 2013 #206

Absolutely: Reason is always ridiculed by the Religious - unless they can kill the reasoners. panzerfaust May 2013 #158

Lovely painting -- reminds me of this Generic Other May 2013 #215

Um, guys? I meant the Pope's statement is ripe for endless ridicule. randome May 2013 #160

DU atheists give me a major pain, but I completely agree with the OP. Buzz Clik May 2013 #234

I never understood why so many people need an archaic book truebluegreen May 2013 #2

Instead of acting in a moral and upright manner toward their fellow human beings Ikonoklast May 2013 #4

I guess. truebluegreen May 2013 #5

you mean just like the people who look down upon them for Bodhi BloodWave May 2013 #213

"both sides are just as bad" RetroLounge May 2013 #229

i was refeering specifically to the 'moral superiority' attitude Bodhi BloodWave May 2013 #237

Why don't you try comparing actions truebluegreen May 2013 #241

+1000 RetroLounge May 2013 #243

likely because that wasn't the topic of this subthread Bodhi BloodWave May 2013 #248

+1000 truebluegreen May 2013 #240

I've read about organized groups of atheists committing atrocities Art_from_Ark May 2013 #262

Nice stretch there... RetroLounge May 2013 #263

Stretch? Art_from_Ark May 2013 #264

And they committed this genocide in the name of their non-god? RetroLounge May 2013 #266

Pfft. truebluegreen May 2013 #239

Ironically Christians choose their morals also. There are as many different interpretations of what rhett o rick May 2013 #8

I don't need a reason to respect and care for others, I just do. Ikonoklast May 2013 #20

As a believer I do not need an authority figure to tell me how to behave. hrmjustin May 2013 #51

And yet. Promethean May 2013 #59

I know plenty of atheists that have better morals than I. hrmjustin May 2013 #123

ah but you are 1 in a million .. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #69

Atheist scare believers. They force us to face facts about our religion. hrmjustin May 2013 #131

As a believer OwnedByCats May 2013 #166

"attack me for my beliefs" what do you mean? alp227 May 2013 #191

I'm an atheist, and I'm certainly not right wing. kurtzapril4 May 2013 #197

There is nothing right wing about it OwnedByCats May 2013 #233

So what's your point? We should not criticize others' beliefs? alp227 May 2013 #236

Hold on a minute OwnedByCats May 2013 #245

Making up fairy tales is a pretty silly way of dealing with how to face mortality MNBrewer May 2013 #250

I didn't make up fairy tales OwnedByCats May 2013 #251

How did you learn how to behave? Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #255

My parents! hrmjustin May 2013 #259

well said. nt DesertFlower May 2013 #81

They should be asked what is the genesis of their morals. LiberalFighter May 2013 #115

Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus. hrmjustin May 2013 #135

Jesus's training was based on the Jewish religion LiberalFighter May 2013 #138

Religions borrow from one another to some extent. hrmjustin May 2013 #142

Exactly! LiberalFighter May 2013 #211

Not only that, they choose to follow a religion and which one to follow. n/t cui bono May 2013 #155

Yup. If Religion was "right" mzteris May 2013 #186

Well the Ten Commandments nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #18

Oh, I know... truebluegreen May 2013 #24

Believe it or not, I thnk science is starting to unravel nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #29

"Mal-adaptive"--absolutely true. truebluegreen May 2013 #31

My nephews go to a Jewish school nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #35

Because the book is full of murderin' and sexin' and all them good things.... WCGreen May 2013 #40

"...full of interest...noble poetry, some clever fables, truebluegreen May 2013 #45

Don't forget the obscenity! pokerfan May 2013 #86

Dang! I knew I was missing something... truebluegreen May 2013 #162

"When one reads Bibles, one is less surprised at what the Deity knows than at what He doesn't know." panzerfaust May 2013 #159

Used to have a copy of Letters from the Earth, truebluegreen May 2013 #164

many who have read and promote the book.... tomp May 2013 #167

which part don't they do? selling daughters into slavery? Phillip McCleod May 2013 #200

Yup! R&K nt longship May 2013 #3

I'm not an atheist. HappyMe May 2013 #6

You mean these? randome May 2013 #10

I frown on those also. HappyMe May 2013 #13

They come in handy on a toe though. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #79

Exactly. nt Lex May 2013 #7

I can't understand why both sides in this debate upaloopa May 2013 #9

Mainly because it can directly affect them. Neoma May 2013 #43

Then fight creationism upaloopa May 2013 #47

Like they're immune to criticism? Neoma May 2013 #60

Nobody is forcing you to be Christian. Nobody upaloopa May 2013 #63

Nobody is forcing? You'd be surprised the kind of crap I've been through so I could be Christain. Neoma May 2013 #67

I am speaking to an adult I assume. upaloopa May 2013 #72

Funny enough, I don't actually go arguing with Christians if I can avoid it. Neoma May 2013 #73

i hear ya.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #76

i was raised catholic and was forced DesertFlower May 2013 #84

In my case, my mom and I were prey to her in-laws and siblings at a certain point. Neoma May 2013 #94

OMG. that's terrible. DesertFlower May 2013 #116

You have to keep this in mind I guess. Neoma May 2013 #117

i've heard about southern baptists. DesertFlower May 2013 #141

I don't think most people realize that Pat Robertson is just the tip of the iceberg. Jamastiene May 2013 #146

Pat Robertson is rich and famous Mariana May 2013 #152

People without money say those things. Neoma May 2013 #178

No. Pat Robertson is rich and famous because SomethingFishy May 2013 #221

Who says his fans are sane rational persons? Mariana May 2013 #225

I barely even try to explain anymore. I don't want that time period stuck in my head. Neoma May 2013 #175

Yet CHristians is public offices ARE forcing their beliefs on us all through legislation and policy. cleanhippie May 2013 #188

I agree 100% hrmjustin May 2013 #205

Now that I think about it. Neoma May 2013 #78

Agreed n/t ReasonableToo May 2013 #130

because religions are political institutions RainDog May 2013 #65

This may shock you but we atheists don't dwell of others beliefs much... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #89

You say you don't dwell on other beliefs upaloopa May 2013 #97

So you are saying that stating others beliefs is a belief. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #98

It is kind of hard not to think about those beliefs when they are shoved in our faces Jamastiene May 2013 #145

What is wrong with you? cleanhippie May 2013 #189

I agree that that most athiests do not OwnedByCats May 2013 #252

When I was a kid my folks got me the Time Life series "The World's Great Religions" Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #253

Well I don't agree with that either OwnedByCats May 2013 #254

I know,...terrible to indoctrinate a kid into thinking... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #257

No I meant that OwnedByCats May 2013 #260

But many don't respect your right to believe as you wish... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #261

WTF? OwnedByCats May 2013 #265

It's got it's comic elements.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #267

LOL, yep OwnedByCats May 2013 #268

What gets me is their little "seance". Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #269

Yeah I don't even know OwnedByCats May 2013 #270

You aren't supposed to "think". Just close your eyes and "feel"... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #271

Dwell, no, obsess maybe? Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #256

About what? Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #258

I don't normally LostOne4Ever May 2013 #118

Because the goded force their archaic idiocy into policy. morningfog May 2013 #122

What they think and do affects people's lives for the worse. Mariana May 2013 #150

When a pope goes to Africa ... GeorgeGist May 2013 #156

So does everyone else. silverweb May 2013 #11

and yet Buddhists are killing each other in Indonesia.. 1000s of years of Buddhist chinese emperors. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #80

You seem to repeat yourself defacto7 May 2013 #108

not at all. just taking to heart that no religion is immune from criticism.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #201

Understood and I agree... but defacto7 May 2013 #232

if these ideals have been vandalized it wasn't me.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #247

Off topic. silverweb May 2013 #109

if my reply was off-topic, was the post i was replying to off-topic? Phillip McCleod May 2013 #204

What part of 'freewill' did he forget about that his God gave him? Rex May 2013 #12

As an Atheist I have no morals. MindPilot May 2013 #14

in fact i agree that morals and ethics are distinct.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #85

Right. I choose the good morals. nt Deep13 May 2013 #15

I choose good ethics. truebluegreen May 2013 #28

Mostly instinct. Deep13 May 2013 #106

Fair enough... truebluegreen May 2013 #161

Context - What pope does this refer to? No Vested Interest May 2013 #16

makes no difference.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #95

Can I get a ruling on Red Lobster's "Shrimp Fest"? brooklynite May 2013 #17

Well, if some of our religious folks were not selective nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #19

As if. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #49

Leviticus 11 says: Mariana May 2013 #74

and that's the same wording in Levit RainDog May 2013 #92

Well, don't forget Lott and his daughters. Jamastiene May 2013 #147

a few gems RainDog May 2013 #149

and you know what the 'good' book says about abominations! Phillip McCleod May 2013 #96

That was a mistranslation by a dyslexic monk. It should read "get em stoned." alfredo May 2013 #127

hate it when that happens! Phillip McCleod May 2013 #208

The translators thought one text said the Red Sea, but it alfredo May 2013 #222

LOL RainDog May 2013 #88

""Human beings, all over the earth, have this curious idea that they ought to behave in a certain wa LanternWaste May 2013 #21

So he thinks it is preferable edhopper May 2013 #22

Well at least his dress hides his ruby slippers. n/t A Simple Game May 2013 #32

nice! :) CarrieLynne May 2013 #23

The funny thing is that religious people also pick & choose their morals. backscatter712 May 2013 #25

Don't even have to go into different books. jeff47 May 2013 #38

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey May 2013 #272

Who on earth doesn't pick and choose their morals? What an imbecilic statement. Squinch May 2013 #26

most of the.world would disagree. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #99

But Catholics are big on free will and choosing the right path. So though they think Squinch May 2013 #102

correction.. *some* catholics.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #105

No. I'm talking about Catholic dogma. It's kind of in the rules. Squinch May 2013 #107

EVERYONE does! elleng May 2013 #27

Yes, it's important to pick good morels and not get poisonous mushrooms. Arugula Latte May 2013 #30

Are you kidding? "Revelations" is nothing if not someone's extremely negative Warren DeMontague May 2013 #33

not psilocybin .. that's the golden calf.. poop storm phallus. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #101

thank you for a funny one with a perfect ending smallcat88 May 2013 #46

Moral relativism=morality based on who gets hurt. Moral absolutism=morality based on the Cloud Guy Bucky May 2013 #34

I follow that guy on twitter amuse bouche May 2013 #36

PREACH IT!!!! Skittles May 2013 #37

Pope joke. Fuddnik May 2013 #41

I just laughed so hard I startled my husband. KentuckyWoman May 2013 #126

my joke: tomp May 2013 #172

Excellent.. the Pope walked right into that one. Cha May 2013 #42

and the Vatican doesn't?! smallcat88 May 2013 #44

What smallcat said. lindysalsagal May 2013 #144

K&R forestpath May 2013 #48

Hmmm ok I guess gollygee May 2013 #50

Sacre bleu! Manifestor_of_Light May 2013 #52

Can you cite John2 May 2013 #187

uh huh. Jesus never advocated cruelty or violence. Please read the following verses. Manifestor_of_Light May 2013 #230

everyone chooses their morals madrchsod May 2013 #53

I agree with you. leftyladyfrommo May 2013 #114

The way I see it...athiests are less prone to hypocrisy Sheepshank May 2013 #54

Very interesting observation... agracie May 2013 #64

true. we don't have to pick and choose from a book.. Phillip McCleod May 2013 #210

I refuse to support the thinking of archaic, ancient institutions who don't change with the times. Initech May 2013 #55

People are supposed to let the Roman Catholic Church choose their morals... Make7 May 2013 #56

I'm having an oddly emotional day libodem May 2013 #57

I will also choose not to obxhead May 2013 #58

Which Pope? NCarolinawoman May 2013 #61

I also located sources from Sept. 2010 No Vested Interest May 2013 #77

Apparently, many people here don't care which pope said this; NCarolinawoman May 2013 #133

Francis said gay people are an attack on God. How's that? Bluenorthwest May 2013 #139

Christian morality is highly suspect jmowreader May 2013 #62

Here. hrmjustin May 2013 #136

U bet we do. roamer65 May 2013 #66

Christian Morals???? penndragon69 May 2013 #71

It Is No Wonder 1ProudAtheist May 2013 #75

didn't one of the other popes criticize DesertFlower May 2013 #82

Good thing we're not talkin' about them Muslims or the Koran ... Bake May 2013 #83

Oh sure,...because tossing Christians to the lions is fun. Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #90

You're talking about the pope, right? Mariana May 2013 #143

Got a link to that papal quote? rug May 2013 #87

No, but this actual quote is an appalling ironic gem: Warren Stupidity May 2013 #103

Close but no cigar. rug May 2013 #104

Ratzinger was saying atheism = nazi RainDog May 2013 #148

Why that's as bad as saying Ratzinger = Nazi. rug May 2013 #171

The irony, I suppose, is a member of Hitler Youth RainDog May 2013 #173

The irony is calling a 14 year old drafted into the Hitler Youth as Germny collapsed a nazi. rug May 2013 #174

Irony is a Democrat defending homophobia and sexism RainDog May 2013 #176

Really? Pray tell, who is doing that? rug May 2013 #177

Don't read it, then RainDog May 2013 #180

Bravo, now you're wrapping your personal hostility in the flag of equality. rug May 2013 #181

keep waiting, then n/t RainDog May 2013 #182

for the record RainDog May 2013 #193

That almost certainly was the speech that was being responding to muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #153

Dear Pope, HockeyMom May 2013 #91

Thanks for your powerful post. nt SunSeeker May 2013 #111

So what's his problem? SammyWinstonJack May 2013 #93

I have always thought most of our "morality" was inborn rurallib May 2013 #100

or their Niceguy1 May 2013 #110

Studies have indicated that very small children have a concept of fairness RainDog May 2013 #112

Ethics seems to be somewhat inhernet Scootaloo May 2013 #151

Those are the words of Pope Child Molester Protector Ratzinger. Dawson Leery May 2013 #113

Yes, RATZINGER's words, apparently. NCarolinawoman May 2013 #124

K&R burnodo May 2013 #119

Now that the Catholics have their "beard", the pretend Pope Francis.... Walk away May 2013 #120

Ratzinger said this, from what I can tell. NCarolinawoman May 2013 #128

I'm not surprised. I doubt that they will ever allow Saint Francis go... Walk away May 2013 #132

Best way for me as an agnostic/atheist is for people to simply get to know me..... tpsbmam May 2013 #125

This may be a good time for an oldie but goodie - The Letter to Dr. Laura: LiberalElite May 2013 #129

The 613 commandments pokerfan May 2013 #137

Yeah, whatever. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #140

Pope told me: Jesus ordered me to hate you! I will do it! I hate you! I hate you!` Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #154

I choose to have nothing to do with the pope jopacaco May 2013 #163

I don't give a rat's ass... 99Forever May 2013 #165

Everyone, religious and atheist alike, can choose to use the Oxford comma. (nt) harmonicon May 2013 #169

So do Christians caseymoz May 2013 #184

Not all of us! hrmjustin May 2013 #227

Yes, all of you. caseymoz May 2013 #231

Not all Christians believe the same thing. hrmjustin May 2013 #238

And you're missing my point. caseymoz May 2013 #246

That is not true for all Christians. hrmjustin May 2013 #249

That's right, Pope. OnionPatch May 2013 #185

Even Popes pick their own morals. Jeez. Zen Democrat May 2013 #190

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welcome, troll RainDog May 2013 #194

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No, Kierkegaard makes that claim RainDog May 2013 #209

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okaaaaay RainDog May 2013 #214

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So you don't support a woman's right to choose, then? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #223

try of to do other things RainDog May 2013 #242

Apprarently MIRT took notice of him Warren DeMontague May 2013 #244

So when Greeks believed in Poseidon, or Celts believed in the mother goddess, or Rainforest Tribes Warren DeMontague May 2013 #226

Oh really now, John2 May 2013 #216

Not believing in God is due to indoctrination while believing is "philosofical thought"? uppityperson May 2013 #196

"The try of science to prove"? Fumesucker May 2013 #207

there is no try Warren DeMontague May 2013 #224

We could start with the Spanish Inquisition; hiding santamargarita May 2013 #195

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Just Like the way you just took "an event" and used it to make your claim without facts? TeamPooka May 2013 #217

I'm not sure where your coming from? santamargarita May 2013 #228

And Christians pick and choose, too. There are homophobic, anti-abortion ... marble falls May 2013 #198

sounds like they'd make good Bishops nt markiv May 2013 #203

and so does everyone else gejohnston May 2013 #219

Religions do not have morals, they have religious rules and dogma they call morals. Maineman May 2013 #220

+1 Buzz Clik May 2013 #235