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ieoeja

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79. That graph you just posted shows that is exactly what happened.

Thu May 9, 2013, 01:58 PM

May 2013

1993 - Assault Weapons Ban
1994 through 1999 - gun crimes plumetted
2000+ slight increase in gun crimes

Using the graph you just posted, this was probably not the time you wanted to make that statement.

I seriously doubt the assault weapons ban was responsible for such a massive drop in overall crime during that particular period. The machine gun ban was certainly a factor in putting an end to the Al Capone era. But we are not currently in such a high crime era.

No, the assault weapons ban would be aimed at cutting down on the number of mass killings. You have to assume that for every mass killer there are many more who wanted to, but did not actually do it. An assault weapon makes it so much easier and tempting for such people. Would the guys in Colorado and Newtown have gone on a killing spree if they hadn't had the easy to use, high speed killing machines at their disposal? Maybe. Maybe not. One thing we can be absolutely certain about: some such wannabe killers would not.

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From the Wayne LaPierre conspiracy files. Dash87 May 2013 #63

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You don't get it because there's an error in your post jeff47 May 2013 #13

The last two decades of gun culture is a huge factor as well. ieoeja May 2013 #21

Exactly. This has changed remarkably even since "Bowling with Columbine" BlueStreak May 2013 #35

Great post. Explains a great deal about what's happened and what's different now. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #49

Wow. You're not kidding. Fix The Stupid May 2013 #29

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Well the kids were in the bathtub which hold water like a swimming pool.. mountain grammy May 2013 #15

Question: krispos42 May 2013 #16

There's the NRA billh58 May 2013 #19

So it's not a valid question? krispos42 May 2013 #23

Is there a specific and objective number of reports that reduces reporting news to "corporate-media LanternWaste May 2013 #26

My premise... krispos42 May 2013 #52

Media are reporting abelenkpe May 2013 #56

Then it's media reporting that's changed, yes? krispos42 May 2013 #59

Gun deaths are holding steady abelenkpe May 2013 #61

Or, we can ban pistol grips from rifles krispos42 May 2013 #62

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I had an interesting conversation with my neighbor about this. krispos42 May 2013 #83

Nice try, but billh58 May 2013 #27

See my reply #52. krispos42 May 2013 #53

That's rich billh58 May 2013 #70

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"You people" krispos42 May 2013 #82

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There's that NRA billh58 May 2013 #32

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Typical NRA rebuttal billh58 May 2013 #42

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When all you spout billh58 May 2013 #85

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Yup, that was my guess. nt Deep13 May 2013 #28

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Yup. Deep13 May 2013 #38

I know this one!! PIRAHNA! nt Demo_Chris May 2013 #39

I think a fucking toaster oven would have made a dandy bath toy for a 5 year old Dick Cheney. 11 Bravo May 2013 #40

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