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ellisonz

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8. I'm honestly not against the death penalty in principle...

Thu May 9, 2013, 05:14 PM

May 2013

...I've thought over that long and hard.

My main concerns are with the effective administration of the death penalty - wrongful conviction, length of incarceration, cost etc.

In this case, there is no doubt the defendant is guilty, and I can see no reason to oppose the death penalty if that is what the People of Ohio and the victims wish to occur.

I think our system needs some serious reform, but I don't think Mr. Castro deserves anything less than capital punishment.

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Prosecutor may seek death penalty in Cleveland case; defendant accused of causing miscarriages [View all] cali May 2013 OP

I think the prolonged kidnappings, Ilsa May 2013 #1

Ohio has a fetal homicide law that specifically targets this kind of geek tragedy May 2013 #3

Since the woman is invisible... loyalsister May 2013 #19

Even though, as a rule, I'm against the death penalty LeftofObama May 2013 #2

Same here! Quantess May 2013 #29

2004: Unborn Victims of Violence Act Junkdrawer May 2013 #4

I not against the DP Politicalboi May 2013 #5

I am also not against the death penalty and this creep deserves it. n/t RebelOne May 2013 #22

Here's the problem metalbot May 2013 #23

+1 Squinch May 2013 #26

I'm thinking any jail stretch over a couple of weeks is probably a death sentence for Castro Bucky May 2013 #6

He's in protective custody Politicalboi May 2013 #9

And then there is reality of it MattBaggins May 2013 #32

The Prosecutor is Going to Have a Tough Time w/ Murder Charges, IMHO. dballance May 2013 #7

Perhaps it's a way to get him to plead to life? BainsBane May 2013 #10

Ohio does have a fetal homicide law in place, and the women's geek tragedy May 2013 #11

I think that's disputable. Pregnancy that's self-diagnosed by the victim? Shrike47 May 2013 #28

Doctors can verify whether a woman JimDandy May 2013 #31

I am sorry but I don't think the women's testimony will be enough. MattBaggins May 2013 #34

Why not? geek tragedy May 2013 #49

I don't think they will without at least the bodies being found MattBaggins May 2013 #50

Even with the bodies found MattBaggins May 2013 #33

I Don't Know. I'm Not an Attorney and I Don't Know OH Law. /nt dballance May 2013 #46

I'm honestly not against the death penalty in principle... ellisonz May 2013 #8

the problem is BainsBane May 2013 #12

I don't disagree with that. ellisonz May 2013 #14

our prison system is not only immoral BainsBane May 2013 #21

So do we not lock up people for rape and murder? ellisonz May 2013 #37

no, of course we lock people up BainsBane May 2013 #47

No. Not in support of death penalty for rape JimDandy May 2013 #35

I agree. HappyMe May 2013 #13

I'm actually against it in the Arias case. ellisonz May 2013 #15

Had she just shot that guy, HappyMe May 2013 #16

And that is the biggest problem with DP MattBaggins May 2013 #36

I don't understand what your question is getting at exactly. ellisonz May 2013 #40

Murdering someone should not be based off a word that can not be quantified. MattBaggins May 2013 #41

But we imprison them for life without parole? ellisonz May 2013 #42

I have no problem with life in prison MattBaggins May 2013 #43

You know a lot of people think life in prison without parole is heinous too... ellisonz May 2013 #44

I think heinous is a useless word. MattBaggins May 2013 #45

I'm against the death penalty in all cases treestar May 2013 #17

Yes and YES!!! sadbear May 2013 #48

A murder can take only one moment of heinousness. What he did is worse. dkf May 2013 #52

His Defense Has Already Begun SoCalMusicLover May 2013 #18

Due process protects the worst of us, or it protects none of us. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #20

I Know, I Just Want The Perfect World I Guess SoCalMusicLover May 2013 #24

We're under no obligation to pretend his guilt is in doubt. geek tragedy May 2013 #25

The Perfect World? HangOnKids May 2013 #27

"mounting a defense where a defense shouldn't even exist" MattBaggins May 2013 #39

Just for starters: noamnety May 2013 #30

But you find them worthless, garbage MattBaggins May 2013 #38

If The Shoe Fits SoCalMusicLover May 2013 #51

Would you like to elaborate on the worth of this asshole? dkf May 2013 #53