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lapislzi

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57. Have to agree, and rec.

Fri May 10, 2013, 11:49 AM

May 2013

That's why we call it "civilization." We need to remove the uncivilized from society, for the good of all.

Whether that is accomplished by putting this individual to death, or by permanent incarceration in a secure and solitary facility is not for me to decide.

In a smorgasbord of sucky outcomes, maybe the best thing that could happen was that this miscreant finds religion in the prison from which he will never be released and works toward victim advocacy, or something similar.

Atonement doesn't fix anything, but it might be the only kind of justice (as opposed to punishment) society could reasonably expect to attain.

Thank you for this distasteful, but necessary, post.

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I hope a very good lawyer represents Ariel Castro [View all] jberryhill May 2013 OP

Castrate Castro rightsideout May 2013 #1

Be carefull olddots May 2013 #6

And you are the reason why jberryhill May 2013 #9

No kidding. HappyMe May 2013 #58

I was just thinking his lawyer BainsBane May 2013 #2

It is among the best jobs for a criminal defense lawyer jberryhill May 2013 #8

Yes, I understand that BainsBane May 2013 #12

It's like looking at the Hoover Dam and saying... jberryhill May 2013 #20

Concrete wasn't "delivered" to the Hoover Dam, aggregate was brought via train snooper2 May 2013 #56

Dam! jberryhill May 2013 #60

It's probably worse to have an innocent client who's facing conviction. geek tragedy May 2013 #52

Anything short of the DP is a win for Castro's lawyer. Bake May 2013 #53

That should be within reach--the fetal homicide charge is going geek tragedy May 2013 #54

they should plead the case to life BainsBane May 2013 #73

except people always hate these guys lawyers BainsBane May 2013 #65

Lots of people hate all lawyers geek tragedy May 2013 #68

You are right about the ones that cause sleep loss. morningfog May 2013 #67

I'm betting law firms are lined up around the block to defend him Blue_Tires May 2013 #64

no pity upi402 May 2013 #3

What does pity have to do with the OP? RedCappedBandit May 2013 #5

Amazing, innit? jberryhill May 2013 #14

again, fuck that freak upi402 May 2013 #15

Again, the Constitution. Mr. X May 2013 #24

Here's an interesting item regarding things NOT in the Constitution bike man May 2013 #34

Thank you for posting that. Too many confuse real world guilt with legal "guilt" uppityperson May 2013 #61

Wow. That is more extreme than Scalia's textualism. morningfog May 2013 #69

So, wait... jberryhill May 2013 #72

Correct - that maxim sets the burden of proof at trial jberryhill May 2013 #71

Justice, not pity. Law, not vengeance... LanternWaste May 2013 #51

He needs someone that can cut a deal to avoid the death penalty Gman May 2013 #4

Perhaps if he pleads guilty and his attorney goes for life without parole ? steve2470 May 2013 #7

That's his best hope Gman May 2013 #11

From what I've heard, obviously just rumor etc., elleng May 2013 #13

I guess you'd have to be some kind of crazy to do what he did Gman May 2013 #16

Insanity? jberryhill May 2013 #17

Yes, agree, no more light of day. elleng May 2013 #19

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #47

I don't see how an insanity defense could work vankuria May 2013 #48

I hope his brothers turn on him Warpy May 2013 #10

Yep jberryhill May 2013 #18

WHY???? 4 t 4 May 2013 #21

Because that is how justice is accomplished. RedCappedBandit May 2013 #22

Yeah, so do I jberryhill May 2013 #23

yea I also hope he gets a fair trial- NOT because 3 girls and one child must be mistaken! 4 t 4 May 2013 #25

that's right. talors511 May 2013 #43

Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin May 2013 #55

Very eloquently put Summer Hathaway May 2013 #26

Thanks, what is the lesson behind it when 3 girls where held for a decade 4 t 4 May 2013 #32

The lesson being Summer Hathaway May 2013 #38

That's nice. whathehell May 2013 #27

People tend to forget that they, too, may be accused of a crime one day and need counsel steve2470 May 2013 #28

That's when you say jberryhill May 2013 #29

I'm sure that would have been the winning answer ! steve2470 May 2013 #30

Either that or the Fifth Amendment jberryhill May 2013 #31

It passed through my mind to say that, but naw... steve2470 May 2013 #33

you guy's are a big fat joke 4 t 4 May 2013 #35

Ah, of course jberryhill May 2013 #37

No apostrophe is needed when you pluralize a word uppityperson May 2013 #63

Agreed. JDPriestly May 2013 #36

I agree GCP May 2013 #39

You hope he is not subject to cruel and unusual punishment. brush May 2013 #40

Ain't gonna be no trial. bravenak May 2013 #41

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Luminous Animal May 2013 #42

And then found guilty... ellisonz May 2013 #44

Agreed Sherman A1 May 2013 #45

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #46

Yes. It's not about him so much as it is about our criminal justice system. cali May 2013 #49

Good point jberryhill May 2013 #59

K&R x 100 COLGATE4 May 2013 #50

Have to agree, and rec. lapislzi May 2013 #57

What do you consider "cruel and unusual"? brooklynite May 2013 #62

I believe the death penalty should be abolished jberryhill May 2013 #70

I hope this for every criminal defendant. morningfog May 2013 #66

This is the type of case I would love to defend. nt msanthrope May 2013 #74