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randome

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150. And no one is required to do so. I'd prefer that we all debate on the issues and the facts.

Reply to demwing (Reply #148)

Tue May 14, 2013, 05:01 PM

May 2013

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Holder should resign quickly, as should the IRS chief [View all] quinnox May 2013 OP

unrec. How ridiculous! apples and oranges May 2013 #1

I second that UNREC. eom BlueCaliDem May 2013 #54

yet another unrec. Progressive dog May 2013 #92

Op = Reppublicanspeak Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #193

I would like for them JustAnotherGen May 2013 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Pryderi May 2013 #3

Maybe you should do some research about the AP story... DonViejo May 2013 #4

I have done research and I've thought that Holder should resign for some time. cali May 2013 #5

Maybe you can ProSense May 2013 #9

I think it's outrageous, given the circumstances of the Yemen leak, cali May 2013 #39

Again, ProSense May 2013 #46

First, cali, I wasn't addressing you... DonViejo May 2013 #22

RE Patrick declining AG No Vested Interest May 2013 #132

You really, really, REALLY don't like the Obama Administration, do you, Cali? BlueCaliDem May 2013 #37

well, I've gone from being a huge supporter to being less than enthusiastic about a number cali May 2013 #44

+1000 truebluegreen May 2013 #51

For a "DUer" who hates this administration as much as a TeaBagger BlueCaliDem May 2013 #52

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #112

Your vision is not all that good if you can not tell the difference karynnj May 2013 #207

You make excellent points. However, BlueCaliDem May 2013 #208

I cant speak for cali but I am disappointed that the Pres Obama admin has not made any rhett o rick May 2013 #58

Democratic values don't mean squat when people work to discourage support for the party that's BlueCaliDem May 2013 #76

Things have shifted so far right that many no longer recognize what a conservative is. rhett o rick May 2013 #86

+1. nt historylovr May 2013 #197

+1 magellan May 2013 #201

Keeping government accountable is tblue May 2013 #203

Well said. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #205

Is there anything you DO like? treestar May 2013 #186

How can you say that? I love President Obama's smile. But his nomination of Penny Sue Pritzker has rhett o rick May 2013 #191

So is there anything in the job description that you DO like? treestar May 2013 #195

Do you like Penny Pritzker? That's the question. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #196

+1 madokie May 2013 #75

It is not unusual for those who were strong supporters, and those who value principles vs principals AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #78

To call for and agree to the resignation of Holder based on flimsy evidence thus far BlueCaliDem May 2013 #85

It is a false equivalency to equate agreeing that Holder should resign for not doing his job with AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #113

Innocent until proven guilty isn't ONLY applicable to criminal prosecutions. I know you're BlueCaliDem May 2013 #172

Some have called me a purist, but now I'm a "Professional Leftist"? If so, somebody owes me money. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #173

No one's called you a professional leftist. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #177

From your post: AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #180

Nope. Don't see it. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #199

Just admit now that you would not like Holder's replacement either treestar May 2013 #187

Ever grow tired G_j May 2013 #111

I'm tired BlueCaliDem May 2013 #170

I think that could be a mistake even though there are things I agree with you on karynnj May 2013 #206

Yes, anytime the GOP outrage machine goes full throttle, everyone should lie down and play dead. randome May 2013 #6

If you know of any redeeming qualities of holder morningfog May 2013 #14

I'm not out looking for redeeming qualities for him. randome May 2013 #28

You are 100 percent correct on this. This hatred for Holder has everything to do with the MMJ BlueCaliDem May 2013 #57

He really hates medical marijuana users. It's unAmerican not to get your drugs from big Pharma. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #64

I'd really like to read of Holder's hatred for medmar users... DonViejo May 2013 #106

Will links to the many houses he's busted into and the number of growers rhett o rick May 2013 #157

That's called enforcing federal law... DonViejo May 2013 #158

Ah the rationalization. The President decides where the DoJ should emphasize their rhett o rick May 2013 #163

Ahh, the condescending attitude of a DU member for another DU member because DonViejo May 2013 #166

So instead of discussing the issue, you choose to call me condescending. rhett o rick May 2013 #168

No, let's be honest here... DonViejo May 2013 #171

You are absolutely correct. I was being flip when I said that Holder hates medical marijuana users. rhett o rick May 2013 #179

There have been threads on this before treestar May 2013 #188

!!! Number23 May 2013 #174

And yet there are 2000 legal MMJ dispensaries currently in the U.S. randome May 2013 #159

No he and his boss seem to be wasting a lot of resources fighting something that the American rhett o rick May 2013 #162

You're right, he does have selective enforcement. randome May 2013 #164

That's a good point if it's true. nm rhett o rick May 2013 #169

Lets see.. demwing May 2013 #7

It's giddiness. n/t ProSense May 2013 #10

No offense demwing May 2013 #16

Wow, ProSense May 2013 #35

there's no fear - it's just you /nt demwing May 2013 #47

The crazy thing ProSense May 2013 #53

Listen - I just don't agree with your absolute commitment to cheer-leading the President demwing May 2013 #66

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #79

Wow, ProSense May 2013 #81

people are sensitive to manipulation and propaganda galileoreloaded May 2013 #90

People ProSense May 2013 #93

lol. look, you know i respect your purpose and what you do here galileoreloaded May 2013 #95

Actually, ProSense May 2013 #97

call em like i see em. :) galileoreloaded May 2013 #100

I think its fair to say Prosense presents both sides of the story no? tia uponit7771 May 2013 #94

No, I wouldn't say that at all, sorry. demwing May 2013 #148

And no one is required to do so. I'd prefer that we all debate on the issues and the facts. randome May 2013 #150

How is that not offensive?? BlueCaliDem May 2013 #59

Because "offense" is in the eye of the beholder demwing May 2013 #71

Sorry, but your responses underscores my post and made my opinion into fact. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #83

why, that is such a surprise that you would want that! Whisp May 2013 #8

Uncomfortable? I would say it would be a good fit BlueCaliDem May 2013 #25

Don't really care about the IRS chief, but Blue_Tires May 2013 #11

The wheels are coming off this administration. morningfog May 2013 #12

You may WANT the wheels to come off this administration. randome May 2013 #17

That is the last thing I want. morningfog May 2013 #141

So ProSense May 2013 #20

Game over, man. Game over, geek tragedy May 2013 #21

What's the issue? demwing May 2013 #29

LOL. Second term over? Sorry, its just begun. JaneyVee May 2013 #42

+ a million quinnox May 2013 #45

As opposed to people who panic without bothering to educate themselves. geek tragedy May 2013 #49

that truly has to be one of the most colossally ridiculous statements... Javaman May 2013 #50

You're right. Obama is in full control of the message. morningfog May 2013 #144

LOL nice try. LOL Javaman May 2013 #181

As do I. morningfog May 2013 #184

have a great day! Javaman May 2013 #204

you know shit. MjolnirTime May 2013 #117

I know lots of shit. morningfog May 2013 #185

Holder had to recuse himself from that investigation geek tragedy May 2013 #13

There is no IRS chief. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2013 #15

I think Holder should resign also, premium May 2013 #18

I agree Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #19

Bullshit. It would make him look WEAK - just as his detractors have been wanting to paint him. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #31

But I think it would make him look decisive and strong Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #36

More bullshit. Did it make the Democratic Party look strong when they forced Anthony Weiner to BlueCaliDem May 2013 #48

Holder was not involved in the AP subpoenas and IRS director left already. Shrike47 May 2013 #23

Tommy Chong for Atty Gen NightWatcher May 2013 #24

The IRS chief left in November. Beacool May 2013 #26

Didn't know that, so I updated the OP quinnox May 2013 #43

Holder should've resigned for a host of reasons, some time ago villager May 2013 #27

I do have to agree with your argument. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #32

Uurrrrfp. Exxxcuuusse me. I respectfully but forcefully disagree. geckosfeet May 2013 #30

+ 1000 eom BlueCaliDem May 2013 #33

your hysteria solves nothing..... chillfactor May 2013 #34

I don't think anyone important gives a shit about what you this Holder should do. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #38

MY God! Do people even bother to READ anymore? demwing May 2013 #40

Are you seriously listening to scuttlebutt? siligut May 2013 #41

zOMG!!11!11! Cali_Democrat May 2013 #55

Holder took himself off the case and the IRS was doing upaloopa May 2013 #56

According to DOJ regs, Holder couldn't take himself off the case Yo_Mama May 2013 #65

Yes someone lower down did. upaloopa May 2013 #73

If this bullshit non story helps get rid of Holder then it's not all bad tularetom May 2013 #60

+ 1000 quinnox May 2013 #62

When Joe Klein and Tweety were demanding okwmember May 2013 #61

What if Holder didn't know about the subpoena? Yo_Mama May 2013 #63

Holder recused himself from the investigation so this doesn't even involve him. randome May 2013 #70

+ 1000 - definitely needs to be a serious investigation quinnox May 2013 #72

He can't recuse himself AND be part of the investigation. randome May 2013 #77

Marco Rubio? Is that you? FSogol May 2013 #67

Oh lord, are YOU misinformed! Zen Democrat May 2013 #68

Thats the stupidest thing I've read today madokie May 2013 #69

+1 n/t FSogol May 2013 #74

+1 uponit7771 May 2013 #96

Nailed it...nt SidDithers May 2013 #121

Holder will go, and make a lot of money when he returns to his firm, but not before the banksters AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #80

+ 1000, I wouldn't be surprised quinnox May 2013 #82

Translation: CakeGrrl May 2013 #84

You got that right! randome May 2013 #91

you Better Believe It! nt geek tragedy May 2013 #99

Yep. Bullseye. eom BlueCaliDem May 2013 #200

Holder has been terrible but not for the reasons the GOP says ZRT2209 May 2013 #87

It now looks like either he has to or the deputy AG has to Yo_Mama May 2013 #88

Duh, Holder appointed a Special US Attorney. And the law is on their side. Zen Democrat May 2013 #153

Don't you have to have an 'IRS chief' before he/she can resign? sinkingfeeling May 2013 #89

you Better Believe It! nt geek tragedy May 2013 #98

Goddamit!!! You beat me to it! nt msanthrope May 2013 #101

We should get a BBI emoticon. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #103

I haven't seen this much wingnut/firebagger agreement since the Clenis was an msanthrope May 2013 #105

Obamacare. Jane Hamsher was sympathizing with Teabaggers geek tragedy May 2013 #107

Catfood!!!! Catfood!!! Call Congress right fuckin' now !!11!!! nt msanthrope May 2013 #108

YBBI! randome May 2013 #110

ROFL alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #145

Red, white and blue?? WAY too patriotic! Number23 May 2013 #175

+1 I LOL'd FSogol May 2013 #165

This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy May 2013 #102

rofl treestar May 2013 #190

Ahhh, the daily DU call for Holder's resignation. tridim May 2013 #104

If you hold a bottle of water in your hand, your Marco Rubio impression is complete. nt msanthrope May 2013 #109

You might wanna read about the Karl Rove connection to this, and consider a delete.... msanthrope May 2013 #114

Nah, I already edited my OP to reflect the info I didn't know that the IRS guy resigned already quinnox May 2013 #118

And Holder recused himself... SidDithers May 2013 #115

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #116

lol quinnox May 2013 #119

no defense, eh? MjolnirTime May 2013 #120

What's your take on the Karl Rove involvement? Still think the imaginary commissioner msanthrope May 2013 #124

For the tenth time, I already updated my OP to reflect that quinnox May 2013 #125

You are avoiding the Karl Rove involvement issue. Marco Rubio would, too, but I msanthrope May 2013 #126

I'm not ignoring it, but my biggest problem is with the AP press records news story anyhow quinnox May 2013 #130

Sure--now that Karl Rove has been linked to the IRS story, I could see how your concern might shift. msanthrope May 2013 #134

now you are just being silly quinnox May 2013 #139

I think it is on you. nt msanthrope May 2013 #160

So bow down to Republicans because if we don't, it might hurt us sometime in the future? randome May 2013 #140

so you would prefer to have these stories blow up and drag on quinnox May 2013 #146

Why would Holder resign for an acting AG's investigation? randome May 2013 #161

Why should Holder Resign? He had nothing whatsoever to do with the AP Subpoenas. MetasticTwine May 2013 #122

Its called taking responsiblity quinnox May 2013 #123

Ah, so you really just have a general beef against Holder MetasticTwine May 2013 #127

Actually I do have a big problem with the patriot act but quinnox May 2013 #128

Then if it's REALLY about taking responsibly MetasticTwine May 2013 #138

Correct! randome May 2013 #142

its called having an opinion quinnox May 2013 #143

And it's the same opinioin Darrell Issa has. MetasticTwine May 2013 #147

well, I bet you agree with Issa on stuff too quinnox May 2013 #149

quinnox... You're Not Alone... Michael Tomasky Agrees... Article Here: WillyT May 2013 #129

thanks for the link Willy quinnox May 2013 #131

all of a sudden you agree with the MSM hack the altmedia puts down? graham4anything May 2013 #137

These aren't major stories.Cristin Miliotti being hired as the Mother on HIMYM is a major story! graham4anything May 2013 #133

don't you think we should find out the facts first? Oh wait a minute, the press told us it was still_one May 2013 #135

The head of the IRS, Douglas Shulman, when targeting happened was appointed by Geoge W. Bush Tx4obama May 2013 #136

that's right, we'll let the GOP decide who can be our AG and prez etc. just by raising a stink Hamlette May 2013 #151

Well, let's Turbineguy May 2013 #152

It's an outrage! randome May 2013 #154

Yes, Turbineguy May 2013 #156

Christ! Yellow meatloaf? That turns my stomach just thinking about it! randome May 2013 #176

Personally I thought Holder was brilliant in going after voter intimidation and nullification. Zen Democrat May 2013 #155

That doesn't count because...it doesn't count! randome May 2013 #178

Agreed, it's embarrassing LittleBlue May 2013 #167

Bullshit! LiberalFighter May 2013 #182

Sorry. If all the people who the GOP wants to resign actually did so, there wouldn't be anyone left Hekate May 2013 #183

Holder has been an embarrassment almost from day one... JCMach1 May 2013 #189

There seems to be a lot of Republicans on this site all of a sudden? Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #192

Ho. Hum. Most Americans do not care - pseudo scandal time again. n/t kiranon May 2013 #194

Obama needs a better class of friends newmember May 2013 #198

What should Holder resign over? dennis4868 May 2013 #202