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OwnedByCats

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64. No doubt all these videos some find on YouTube
Thu May 16, 2013, 07:31 AM
May 2013

that negatively shows pit bulls, you've seen the good ones too right? When you read negative stories you read the positive ones too as well right? Yeah, I didn't think so. If you did, you'd find a lot more articles, videos and documentaries that would show you the other side. Do you read about the pit bulls who have made excellent therapy dogs and service animals for the disabled? Have you read about Michael Vick's saved pit bulls and how they are now? Stories of pit bulls aiding in saving a life? Have you actually ever spent time with a variety of pit bulls either in shelters, kennels or vet hospitals? Do you actually have any experience with a fair number of them, not just the ones your neighbor has? Some of you may have had a bad experience with one - but have you had experience with high numbers of them in a circumstance where the owners aren't irresponsible? Have you actually spent any time becoming "informed"? Just looking at one side of an issue doesn't make you informed. Heck if I believed all the crap republicans go on about, I'd be believing that democrats are all idiots.


You know what other types of stories are vast in the news? Abused pit bulls. Those stories are EVERYWHERE. A pit bull starved to death and thrown down a garbage shoot. Somehow that dog was found and actually survived even though I don't ever remember a dog looking that emaciated that actually lived. His name is Patrick. He's doing well now. Oh and there are hundreds more like him. Or how about in my area where a pit bull was dragged down the highway behind a truck and when the chain broke, the dog was slammed into a guard rail. The worst part of this story, aside that it happened in the first place, was that the dog was still alive. She was taken to the ASPCA where they determined her injuries were too serious to treat, she was STILL alive and had to be put down. Or about the one who was tied to a picnic table and his rear end was stuck to the ground because it was so cold. If I had a nickel for everyone of those stories, I'd never have to work again.

I'm not going to bother linking videos, documentaries and articles that show another side because quite frankly, a small handful on this board do not know how to be objective. Perspective is also lacking because some can't understand that we have approx a couple million pit bulls in the United States, if the hysteria matched the truth, we'd have hundreds of deaths per day due to pit bulls who are born vicious and evil instead of, let's see - 22 people died in 2012 from pit bulls or pit bull "types" (whatever the hell that means). This is one of the most rare ways to die. You're a million times more likely to be murdered by a human, killed in a car accident, shot to death or die from cancer/heart disease. You even have a slightly better chance to be killed by lightening. More people die from cow attacks for Pete's sake. A little perspective please.

However, it doesn't mean we shouldn't try to prevent the few we do have because all lives are important. Banning won't do it. Culling them won't do it. Thugs will just malign a whole other breed. It happens in countries that have banned pit bulls.

Now if some can't understand that a pit bull is an animal and like ALL animals, you'll get a small percentage that behave like animals, especially when trained to act that way, not socialized or abused - and quite frankly, do not know any better - then nobody is ever going to understand this issue.

In most cases especially with dogs, all roads lead back to the owner or a previous owner. This is not a cop out, this is a fact. Take a poll amongst people who work with dogs every day of their life and you'll find them blaming the other end of the leash. Dogs are like kids in that they need guidance and raised and trained properly because they become a product of their environment. There are exceptions to this, but very few.

Also I love how dogs are held to the same intellectual standard as people. Pit bulls are "evil". So is a bear "evil" for killing a camper or is it animal defending it's territory or just being what it is, an animal that we cannot verbally reassure that we're not there to hurt them?

I'm sorry, but ignorance and being spoon fed from the corrupt media is no excuse to malign millions of dogs who have never hurt anyone. So many people claim they don't trust the "mainstream right wing media", yet some eat up these stories on pit bulls like it's their favorite meal, no questions asked. Just incredible.

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I wish those vicious creatures could be banned. Nye Bevan May 2013 #1
Or a beagle. It would just sniff the person like crazy, MineralMan May 2013 #3
Sib got a beagle because we grew up with The Best Beagle ever. He ended up being a biter and had to uppityperson May 2013 #8
That's unfortunate. Sorry that happened. MineralMan May 2013 #10
It was. The Best Beagle ever had such soft ears and easy disposition. Wonderful kid dog uppityperson May 2013 #12
Yah, adult dogs have histories we don't always know. MineralMan May 2013 #16
I meant when sib was an adult, the beagle was a puppy. uppityperson May 2013 #18
I used to volunteer at a shelter teaching dogs not to bite - hollysmom May 2013 #22
All the pit bulls I've ever met have been sweethearts Warpy May 2013 #39
I agree wholeheartedly OwnedByCats May 2013 #62
Now, replace "pit bull" with "gun" and we have the right's argument joeglow3 May 2013 #66
the only dog I have ever been bitten by is a Cocker Spaniel notadmblnd May 2013 #42
Oh FFS, when will the myths ever end Wednesdays May 2013 #72
That's like posting a picture of someone safely using a semiautomatic weapon Nye Bevan May 2013 #73
When mine mauls or maims somebody, I'll let you know. Wednesdays May 2013 #90
I've got an asshole neighbor Le Taz Hot May 2013 #87
Awful, awful, awful. MannyGoldstein May 2013 #2
reading this just makes me cringe newmember May 2013 #4
the linked article zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #70
Comes from ignorant owners and breeders Marrah_G May 2013 #17
I'm speechless. Had those dogs been properly restrained MineralMan May 2013 #5
It's not normal for most breeds to attack and act like this , something got to give here.. newmember May 2013 #9
I have zero tolerance for loose pit bulls. Zero. MineralMan May 2013 #19
good for you, I would have done the same thing newmember May 2013 #20
I have zero tolerance for loose dogs period hollysmom May 2013 #29
Husky ? newmember May 2013 #32
holly is a hollysmom May 2013 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #91
trust me, when I do it, she is. hollysmom May 2013 #92
The story said Politicalboi May 2013 #37
The interesting part of that is this: Chan790 May 2013 #54
I know someone who has a Lab/Boxer mix OwnedByCats May 2013 #63
did you catch this from the article? zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #67
These dogs prey on the weakest - the old and infirm, or the very young. Dangerous stuff. n/t cigsandcoffee May 2013 #6
That is how any predator behaves. MillennialDem May 2013 #7
Rethuglicans included. lpbk2713 May 2013 #11
Domesticated family pets aren't supposed to act like predators newmember May 2013 #13
Depends how hungry the animal is and who it views as members of the tribe/pack/etc MillennialDem May 2013 #23
I understand all that newmember May 2013 #36
Pit Bulls are predators, wild animals. Dawson Leery May 2013 #14
Packs of big dogs are a bad idea unless you are Caesar Milan! Marrah_G May 2013 #15
Something needs to happen , I don't hate the breed , I don't hate any dogs newmember May 2013 #21
"three of the dogs belonged to the victim’s relative 61-year-old Barbara Goodwin" FarCenter May 2013 #24
Why just Pits? dbackjon May 2013 #44
A Bichon Frisé may bite, but it is rarely fatal FarCenter May 2013 #65
Any breed in a pack can inflict damage dbackjon May 2013 #68
Your chances of surviving a pack of Bichon Frisé is better than surviving a pack of Pit Bulls. FarCenter May 2013 #75
Many animal control officers are unprepared to deal with pits and their owners KurtNYC May 2013 #74
They should be armed -- no reason that they should jeopardize their own safety for a dog. FarCenter May 2013 #76
just wanted to add about the child pulled out of the swing and eaten hollysmom May 2013 #25
Dogs don't kill people. Owners kill people. Or...something like that. randome May 2013 #26
If only everyone was armed with a pit bull.....nt msanthrope May 2013 #28
Or if only pit bulls were armed. randome May 2013 #33
Ya gotta love the internet--I bet you ran that search and had thousands of msanthrope May 2013 #35
4 dogs running loose = pack magical thyme May 2013 #27
We had a pack of family-type dogs--all breeds--running loose at the more rural end of our valley. Common Sense Party May 2013 #30
They won't. Ever. Wishing for people to behave better will not make them do so. randome May 2013 #34
no, but holding them legally liable will. nt magical thyme May 2013 #41
Well said!!!! hamsterjill May 2013 #45
Rubbish. Boudica the Lyoness May 2013 #46
"...watched hundreds of videos...." baldguy May 2013 #77
I can't stand those dogs. TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #31
My parents next door neighbor own 2 pit bulls Catherine Vincent May 2013 #40
Isn't this the second death by pitbull mauling flamingdem May 2013 #43
Yes " a few days ago four pits tore apart a 60 year old female jogger newmember May 2013 #53
Not all deaths are equal. Bonobo May 2013 #47
Parents tried for 17 years to have a baby. Boudica the Lyoness May 2013 #48
I am so glad flvegan May 2013 #50
I like to be informed. Boudica the Lyoness May 2013 #56
Since you want to be informed LostOne4Ever May 2013 #61
People who want to indiscriminately ban Pit Bulls are just as bad as the people who abuse them. baldguy May 2013 #81
Repeating it over and over again doesn't make it true XemaSab May 2013 #82
You realize Reply # 56 has been posted about 1000 times, right? baldguy May 2013 #83
Ignorance and random YouTube = informed? Wow, okay. flvegan May 2013 #89
wow .....so sad newmember May 2013 #52
I love "Pit Bull Week" on DU. flvegan May 2013 #49
I have a theory on why there are so many Pit attacks Marrah_G May 2013 #51
Thank you for asking. flvegan May 2013 #55
No man " they were more popular and sought after in the early 1900's newmember May 2013 #60
Regardless of breed, far too many dog owners are completely irresponsible SheilaT May 2013 #57
Something happened in the last 75 to 100 years newmember May 2013 #58
I'm guessing beacuse the underground fight scene skyrocketed? Blue_Tires May 2013 #71
I don't know what the answer is newmember May 2013 #84
Four PD Turk May 2013 #59
No doubt all these videos some find on YouTube OwnedByCats May 2013 #64
Ted Bundy was a totally nice guy more than 99% of the time XemaSab May 2013 #69
I hate to tell you, but that works with every living thing. OwnedByCats May 2013 #86
don't forget warrprayer May 2013 #78
In a nod to Pit owners Trajan May 2013 #79
Yep. All dog owners should be required to go through training & get licensed. baldguy May 2013 #80
And even if all the requirements are followed whatchamacallit May 2013 #85
Posts like this are only posted here to stir shit. Apophis May 2013 #88
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