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In reply to the discussion: "I wish those vicious creatures could be banned." ***WARNING: GRAPHIC*** [View all]The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)52. They have less pit bull attacks in France - because they have laws against those dogs
Just like they have strict gun laws.
PARIS, Jan. 6 As everyone knows, the French love dogs and don't mind what they do on the sidewalk. Starting today, pit bulls are an exception to the dog-loving part.
A new law requires all pit bulls, said to be the most dangerous of dogs, to be sterilized, muzzled, registered at city halls and kept out of public places. The District of Columbia and other U.S. jurisdictions are considering or already impose various controls on pit bulls, while a number of European countries have enacted their own limitations.
In the Netherlands, for instance, breeding of pit bulls has been forbidden since 1993, and they are required to be sterilized. The country expects the breed to be extinct there in two more years. And an "aggression test" is required for five other breeds; dogs that fail must be muzzled, sterilized and kept on a short leash.
In France, pit bulls are responsible for relatively few biting deaths. But, as in some other countries, they tend to be mostly owned by alienated young people in low-income neighborhoods who raise them for fighting a bad sign for potential enforcement of the new law.
"In ghettos where the police don't go in already, I don't see why they will go in because of this law," said Paris city councillor Jean-Michel Michaux, a veterinarian. In fact, France is a country with many laws no one obeys, and this threatens to become another one. The police have been given no special training or increased resources to enforce it. According to Gerard Boyer, head of the police union, nine bureaucrats will administer the law for all of Paris.
A new law requires all pit bulls, said to be the most dangerous of dogs, to be sterilized, muzzled, registered at city halls and kept out of public places. The District of Columbia and other U.S. jurisdictions are considering or already impose various controls on pit bulls, while a number of European countries have enacted their own limitations.
In the Netherlands, for instance, breeding of pit bulls has been forbidden since 1993, and they are required to be sterilized. The country expects the breed to be extinct there in two more years. And an "aggression test" is required for five other breeds; dogs that fail must be muzzled, sterilized and kept on a short leash.
In France, pit bulls are responsible for relatively few biting deaths. But, as in some other countries, they tend to be mostly owned by alienated young people in low-income neighborhoods who raise them for fighting a bad sign for potential enforcement of the new law.
"In ghettos where the police don't go in already, I don't see why they will go in because of this law," said Paris city councillor Jean-Michel Michaux, a veterinarian. In fact, France is a country with many laws no one obeys, and this threatens to become another one. The police have been given no special training or increased resources to enforce it. According to Gerard Boyer, head of the police union, nine bureaucrats will administer the law for all of Paris.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/pmextra/jan00/06/pitbulls.htm
France, since January 2000, has required that all pit bulls and dogs of several other high-risk breeds be neutered, with the intention of eliminating them entirely by 2010.
http://www.animalpeoplenews.org/dogFight1100.htm
Getting a permit/licence
It is obligatory to register the dog at the Town Hall (Mairie) and receive a licence (Permis de détention). Any dangerous dog owner without a permit may be fined and imprisoned. A form must be completed and submitted to the town hall along with the following documents:
A behavioral assessment of the dog, performed by a veterinarian
A certificate of competency of the owner, issued by a certified trainer following a training course (the mairie can provide the contact details of certified dog trainers in a region)
Proof of identification of the dog,
Proof of valid anti-rabies inoculation
Proof of third party public liability insurance for the owner or handler of the dog
Proof of sterilisation (in the case of a category 1 dog)
If the dog is not yet eight months old, a provisional permit is issued and the dog must undergo a full behavioral evaluation at one year of age before the full licence can be drawn up.
The registration forms can be downloaded online:
Category 1 dog: Relevant documents for registration: Click here
Category 2 dog: Relevant documents for registration: Click here
Dog owners' responsibilities
Any dog, regardless of its category, which bites or injures a person must be reported to the town hall by the owner. The dog then undergoes a behavioural evaluation by a vet who will advise what the next steps will be.
Category 1 dog:
Acquisition, sale, purchase and importing these dogs is banned
Sterilisation of male and female dogs is compulsory (must have a veterinary certificate to prove this)
Access to public transport, public places and common areas in apartment buildings is prohibited
The dog may be taken to wide open places but must be kept on a lead and muzzled
Category 2 dog:
It must be leashed and muzzled in public places and on public transport
It is obligatory to register the dog at the Town Hall (Mairie) and receive a licence (Permis de détention). Any dangerous dog owner without a permit may be fined and imprisoned. A form must be completed and submitted to the town hall along with the following documents:
A behavioral assessment of the dog, performed by a veterinarian
A certificate of competency of the owner, issued by a certified trainer following a training course (the mairie can provide the contact details of certified dog trainers in a region)
Proof of identification of the dog,
Proof of valid anti-rabies inoculation
Proof of third party public liability insurance for the owner or handler of the dog
Proof of sterilisation (in the case of a category 1 dog)
If the dog is not yet eight months old, a provisional permit is issued and the dog must undergo a full behavioral evaluation at one year of age before the full licence can be drawn up.
The registration forms can be downloaded online:
Category 1 dog: Relevant documents for registration: Click here
Category 2 dog: Relevant documents for registration: Click here
Dog owners' responsibilities
Any dog, regardless of its category, which bites or injures a person must be reported to the town hall by the owner. The dog then undergoes a behavioural evaluation by a vet who will advise what the next steps will be.
Category 1 dog:
Acquisition, sale, purchase and importing these dogs is banned
Sterilisation of male and female dogs is compulsory (must have a veterinary certificate to prove this)
Access to public transport, public places and common areas in apartment buildings is prohibited
The dog may be taken to wide open places but must be kept on a lead and muzzled
Category 2 dog:
It must be leashed and muzzled in public places and on public transport
http://riviera.angloinfo.com/information/family/pets/restrictions-on-animals/
Dogs are like guns. Blame the item people own, not people.
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"I wish those vicious creatures could be banned." ***WARNING: GRAPHIC*** [View all]
baldguy
May 2013
OP
Do you have difficulty telling the difference between an object and an animal?
Scootaloo
May 2013
#64
Of the pics I posted: set on fire, starved, beaten, stabbed, shot, doused in acid, legs broken....
baldguy
May 2013
#6
Blame the victim. Incredible. Out of all those photos, only 2 were caused by other dogs, rest humans
uppityperson
May 2013
#215
I'd like to see life in prison and daily beatings for people who would do this.
kysrsoze
May 2013
#42
How many posts have we seen spammed across DU showing human victims of dog attacks?
baldguy
May 2013
#13
To illustrate the lengths that disgusting human beings will do to turn an
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#22
You were warned about graphic pictures. You didn't have to click on the thread. /nt
dballance
May 2013
#46
...according to you. I think people need to see just how vicious animal abusers are
kysrsoze
May 2013
#49
I forgot to say, I like the quotes you put in italics between the stories of the dogs.
uppityperson
May 2013
#11
Those are the eyes of lovers not haters. Dogs know when they are rescued and love you for it.
Dragonfli
May 2013
#33
The are some dogs which are more dangerous: unspayed/unneutered dogs who are't trained & socialized.
baldguy
May 2013
#63
Gee, looks like someone down-thread is going to be busy for a while exterminating all those breeds.
DRoseDARs
May 2013
#142
Pits were initially, during times of "legitimate" dog fighting (whatever that is)
cui bono
May 2013
#146
I was bit hard by a neighbor's Irish Setter when I was 13. 7 stitches and a lot of bruising.
haele
May 2013
#183
It does when you take into account the type of people who abuse them and fight them
cui bono
May 2013
#37
Any dog that is raised to fiight for their life is going to keep on fighting for the
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#38
First of all, people have to clarify what exactly they mean by "pit bull."
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#53
I agree that certain dog owners, and their pets, should be monitored more closely.
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#66
How many posts have we seen spammed across DU showing pics of human victims of dog attacks?
baldguy
May 2013
#39
They have less pit bull attacks in France - because they have laws against those dogs
The Straight Story
May 2013
#52
Some of the sweetest dogs I've ever known were pure-bred (or close to it) APBT's.
nomorenomore08
May 2013
#40
Man doesn't want puppy growing trusting of Humans, brings puppy with him out in public.
DRoseDARs
May 2013
#50
And you would have gone to jail if you'd tried to rescue the little guy. That's the tragedy.
DRoseDARs
May 2013
#59
The majority of those images are of dogs that were used as bait for dog fight training
FedUpWithIt All
May 2013
#51
I specifically selected cases where the abuse was *NOT* inflicted by other animals.
baldguy
May 2013
#58
Gotcha , you get angry when you see a true story of a pit bull attacking and killing a person
newmember
May 2013
#85
"Gotcha"? You advocate genocide just to score some brownie points with DU's anti-dog crew?
baldguy
May 2013
#88
Several of your own links clarify that the injuries are from use as bait dogs.
FedUpWithIt All
May 2013
#234
You're too thick to get it, aren't you? You "choices" would make things worse - and do.
baldguy
May 2013
#81
That's a flat-out lie. 34 were people killed by all dogs in all of 2012 - out of 89 million dogs.
baldguy
May 2013
#86
I definitely do. You obviously don't - or simply don't care. I'm willing to bet it's the latter.
baldguy
May 2013
#99
This from a person known for hyperbole, is lying left & right, and is channeling Pee Wee Herman.
baldguy
May 2013
#103
Guessing from his username, it may be safe to assume he's old enough to be bald. Just sayin'. nt
DRoseDARs
May 2013
#109
Says the person claiming pit bulls kill people every day. It is hard to have a conversation with
uppityperson
May 2013
#138
Don't tell us you volunteer at one of PETA's shelters, that would be appalling.
DRoseDARs
May 2013
#123
No not PETA, it's our local shelter in town , If the dog is unadaptable due to aggression
newmember
May 2013
#126
You chose to type a lengthy post dismissing the entire thread without reading.
DRoseDARs
May 2013
#139
What always gets me about dogs is how much abuse they will take from someone...
Jamastiene
May 2013
#153
dog fighting, animal abuse are crimes. unfortunate a Misdemeanor in many states
Sunlei
May 2013
#161
I personally wish I could ban humans from existing we are the number one threat to ourselves
Arcanetrance
May 2013
#167
I have noticed that virtually all of the anti-pit advocates here are the authoritarians.
Egalitarian Thug
May 2013
#181
Speaking out about animal abuse gets "people and beloved pets killed"? What?
uppityperson
May 2013
#185
You're irredeemable. Such sensationalism cases the abuse depicted here. And you are lying.
baldguy
May 2013
#190
You're advocating the abuse of defensless, innocent animals that have comitted no crimes.
baldguy
May 2013
#186
Got it. If I believe pit bulls should be regulated I'm responsible for the actions of animal abusers
Nine
May 2013
#196
It's good to see you admit how poisonous, destructive & disingenuous it is to believe otherwise.
baldguy
May 2013
#197