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In reply to the discussion: "I wish those vicious creatures could be banned." ***WARNING: GRAPHIC*** [View all]OwnedByCats
(805 posts)Pit bulls were bred for multiple purposes, to work on farms and be companion animals. And yes, one of them was dog fighting, but not to kill people. Do you know that people who fight dogs do not want people aggressive dogs? Why might you think that is? Gee, so the dog doesn't turn on them eventually maybe? They even admit to killing ones that show any people aggression. If anything, they are more likely to be dog aggressive, I expect you know the difference.
However any time a dog is bred for specific reasons, they don't come out of the womb knowing what their job is. Sure they have characteristics bred into them to aid in their purpose, but they have to be trained. Pit bulls don't come out just wanting to decimate every person they see, which is how people like you make them out to be. Only in extremely rare circumstances is a dog born vicious. Even most fighting dogs can be rehabilitated - ask the people that seized all of Michael Vick's pit bulls. Ask anyone who does that kind of job and they'll tell you most of them aren't even aggressive towards them when they enter a property to confiscate fighting dogs. The people who speak like you, have no vast hands on experience on this subject because first of all, your hate and bigotry refuses to allow objectivity, perspective and an open mind. Just regurgitating the bullshit you read in the media and only trusting sources that railroad pit bulls as evil, vicious monsters. Your ignorance and refusal to even see a little of the other side is no excuse to slaughter millions of dogs who did NOTHING wrong. If one viciously attacks someone, I agree that PARTICULAR dog should be put down for public safety reasons. Serial killers are usually white males, does that mean we kill ALL white males even though a tiny percentage of them like to kill for fun? No, everyone is an individual and that includes our pets. It doesn't make all creatures bad. You think highly enough of animals not to eat them, but you have no problem with lining up every pit bull in the country, even the vast majority who are innocent, and having them put down in a dog style holocaust? Are you freaking kidding me?!
Holy cow, because I don't support the culling of white men because that's who serial killers generally are, I support murder?! Replace that with pit bull and it's the same thing. Whether you want to consider that on a lower scale, fine - but it's the same mentality. Don't accuse us of being supportive of violence when you don't know any of us or what we've done in our lives that helped us come to the conclusions we have because you don't know shit about it.
People like you are too lazy to look at the source of the problem and try to deal with that, you just want to ban shit because you think that's an easy fix. There is no such thing. Cull all the pit bulls you want and thugs will just find another breed to manipulate and they are maligned and people like you call for bans when you find out OTHER dogs are still attacking people. That doesn't take the violence away, it just replaces the medium used. In other countries, thugs use Dobermans, Rottweilers, Mastiffs, German Shepherds and others to replace the pit bull they can no longer get their hands on. These violent acts commited by people, some of whom use a dog as a scape goat, are the root of violence. If you don't deal with the source of the problem, you're still going to have a fucking problem! Prohibition was stupid because it caused more problems than it solved and the drug war is the same. Wanting to ban all guns, not just some of them, won't solve all our violence issues either. People who intend to commit a violent crime will a) keep their weapon even if there was a mandatory hand over because that will give them an advantage because chances are, the person they hurt or kill, will have no means to protect themselves, and really, who gives a shit about breaking some gun laws when they want to kill people?! The psychos who do that, that's who - or b) find some other way to do it (ie, bombs - I hear they are not hard to make especially when one of the main components can be a kitchen appliance, or we have knives, baseball bats, cars, poisons - I could name stuff all day. We take all guns away, but did we actually address WHY people want to do this? I'm not a fan of guns, but I'm also not a fan of criminals running around with them while your average law abider is a sitting duck. It's quite a quandary.
I don't like violence and for the most part, these dogs aren't violent. I don't care what you think you know about it, but it's a fact. Get your head out of the sand. PEOPLE have done this to them and it's too bad that you can't see that. Dog maulings and fatalities are the least of our problems in this world. You have so much of a better chance of your fellow humans hurting you than any of these dogs but I guarantee you that 99% of the ones that do attack, there is a person behind that animal who is 100% responsible for it and those people should be punished, not millions of dogs who did nothing to deserve the kind of fate you want to give them. But you go ahead and stay ignorant without actually getting involved in the subject - doing as I said in another post, being around them, seeing how really great they can be when having been blessed with responsible owners. Even most pit bulls that are abused bounce back with the right people, I've seen it happen many many times. Unfortunately not all these dogs can bounce back. It's just like people - some deal with a bad situation differently than most of us, everyone is different in their make up, some unfortunately succumb to the bad that's happened to them and that includes dogs of any breed.
Our animal cruelty laws are not strict enough, especially considering in the state I live in, a judge is more likely to give a fine or community service than actual jail time for animal abusers. How about replacing the pot smokers (who commited no violent crime) with animal abusers so we have space in jails for the bastards?
I know you'll think what you like regardless of what anyone says. No experience would be enough because you know it all, right? Why don't you talk to some pit bull rescuers? The owner of Villalobos rescue has rescued hundreds of pit bulls, funny though - she still has all her limbs, no scars or injuries and her life. I wonder how that happened? I guess she must be really gifted to keep such vicious dogs from attacking her.