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BREMPRO

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89. ok. so here's a more objective wikipedia link that sites numerous studies that support their
Sun May 19, 2013, 12:53 PM
May 2013

conclusion of the inherent dangers of the breed. they also are more likely to bite children unprovoked and hard to get to let go during a bite given their breeding. I've witnessed this myself personally.. a child in a park i visited almost died from an unprovoked bite by a pitt bull breed, after being unable to pry the dog fromt he child it took 20+ hits to the head with a baseball bat to get the dog to let go.. (agreed not the best method, but the only one my friend had available at the time)

from wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull

Pit bull

A 9-year (1979–88) review of fatal dog attacks in the United States determined that, of the 101 attacks in which breed was recorded, pit bulls were implicated in 42 of those attacks (42%).[26] A 1991 study found that 94% of attacks on children by pit bulls were unprovoked, compared to 43% for other breeds.[27] A 5-year (1989–94) review of fatal dog attacks in the U.S. determined that pit bulls and pit bull mixed breeds were implicated in 24 (29%) of the 84 deaths in which breed was recorded.[28]

A 15-year (1991–2005) review of dog attack fatalities investigated by the Kentucky Medical Examiner determined that pit bulls were implicated in 5 of the 11 fatal attacks (45%).[29] Another 15-year (1994–2009) review of patients admitted to a Level I Trauma Center with dog bites determined that pit bulls were most often involved in these attacks: of the 228 patients treated, the breed of dog was recorded in 82 attacks, and of these, 29 (35%) of the attacks were by pit bulls (all other dogs combined accounted for the remaining 65% of attacks).[30] In 45% of the attacks, the dog belonged to the victim's family.[30] The authors wrote:

Attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs. Strict regulation of pit bulls may substantially reduce the US mortality rates related to dog bites.[30]

However, concerns about the reliability of the study's data, its conclusions, its methodology, and its use of citations were raised in a later letter to the editor of Annals of Surgery, by Karen Delise, founder of the National Canine Research Council, a pit bull advocacy organization.[31]

A 5-year (2001–05) review of dog attack victims admitted to the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia determined that pit bull terriers were implicated in more than half of the bites where breed was identified. Of the 269 patients where breed was identified, 137 (51%) were attacked by pit bulls.[32] The authors wrote:

the overwhelming number of bites involving pit bull terriers in this study and others certainly has some degree of validity when it comes to identifying bite-prone breeds. Pit bull terriers, German shepherds, and Rottweilers were the offending breeds implicated in our study, and have accounted for the majority of dog bites according to other investigators.[32]

A review of the medical literature found that pit bulls and pit bull cross-breeds were involved in 42–45% of dog attacks.[33] Fatalities were most often reported when children were attacked, with 70% of victims being under the age of 10.[33]

Some other studies on the number of human deaths caused by dog bite trauma have surveyed news media stories for reports of dog-bite-related fatalities. This methodology is subject to potential errors, as some fatal attacks may not have been reported, a study might not find all relevant news reports, and the dog breed might be misidentified.[6]

Courts in the United States[34][35] and Canada[36][37] have ruled that expert identification, when using published breed standards, is sufficient for the enforcement of breed-specific legislation. It is also possible to distinguish dogs by breed using DNA testing,[37] though test results for any one dog can vary widely depending upon the laboratory that performs the test and the number of purebred dog breeds in the laboratory's DNA database.[38]

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nurture brings out the true nature Voice for Peace May 2013 #1
Another... GoCubsGo May 2013 #2
Hearing Ira Glass talk about Piney is amazing. PeaceNikki May 2013 #3
So cute - the whole batch! Nt xchrom May 2013 #4
K&R With one comment. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #5
Fionna Apple and Janet: The Letter (Hanky Alert!) demmiblue May 2013 #6
Here's another great link - Pit Bull heroes Hall of Fame PeaceNikki May 2013 #7
Yes, I suppose they can afford to go without homeowners insurance too ErikJ May 2013 #8
Automatically? Wednesdays May 2013 #9
HA! Like health insurance. They wont pay out if youre sued a couple Mill. ErikJ May 2013 #10
Will they pay if you are sued for what your st bernard did? uppityperson May 2013 #11
Probably. ErikJ May 2013 #22
Prove it. Show us any link to any national insurance carrier baldguy May 2013 #25
Many 'pitbulls' are not large. roody May 2013 #29
Exactly. uppityperson May 2013 #31
But insurance company might define them as such. It's going to depend on the company. baldguy May 2013 #32
He's lying. baldguy May 2013 #17
That's simply not true. PeaceNikki May 2013 #12
Sorry it is. Top 10 dangerous dogs disqualify ErikJ May 2013 #13
No, it's not. PeaceNikki May 2013 #15
THat's odd-State Farm asked me if I had any dangerous dog. ErikJ May 2013 #24
you can use the Internet for research too... snooper2 May 2013 #73
Of course you know that's a lie. baldguy May 2013 #16
My insurance company has never asked roody May 2013 #27
Well they sure do in my state. States have different standards I guess. ErikJ May 2013 #40
agents have their own standards. PeaceNikki May 2013 #43
Wil Wheaton's Seamus looks just like our dear departed Jocko. Whisp May 2013 #14
Wil has Marlowe too. baldguy May 2013 #33
Awesome! BainsBane May 2013 #18
my next dog. Jon Stewart lives his stuff. My hero, that roguevalley May 2013 #19
Yeah, for anyone who missed the slide show on HuffPo PeaceNikki May 2013 #21
Is it bad quakerboy May 2013 #20
The point is 99.9999999% of dogs that look like Pit Bulls **DON'T** and **WON'T** bite people. baldguy May 2013 #30
where did you get your information? Pit bulls bites are by far the most in number and BREMPRO May 2013 #77
First off LostOne4Ever May 2013 #79
Well, that pretty much puts all that to bed (to sleep?) DirkGently May 2013 #88
ok. so here's a more objective wikipedia link that sites numerous studies that support their BREMPRO May 2013 #89
You do realize that any numbnuts with an internet connection can edit Wikipedia? baldguy May 2013 #96
sure from dogbites. but the study was performed by JAMA, well respected for their adherence BREMPRO May 2013 #105
Probably because of the media LostOne4Ever May 2013 #107
Lots of Abstracts LostOne4Ever May 2013 #106
I delivered papers as a kid dsc May 2013 #110
Dogsbite,com is an anti-Pit Bull propaganda site, full of outright lies. baldguy May 2013 #82
are you saying their statistics are wrong? or simply misleading? BREMPRO May 2013 #85
According to Wikipedia LostOne4Ever May 2013 #108
Bullmastiffs (from the UK) and Presa Canarios (from Spain) are two entirely separate breeds Celerity Jun 2023 #111
Josh Hutcherson adopts pit bull ErikJ May 2013 #23
And as we all know whatchamacallit May 2013 #26
How many of these people are now dead from mauling since the pics were taken? Buzz Clik May 2013 #28
u forgot the sarcasm emotie. dogs are like people. good or bad, it's all in how they are trained. ellenfl May 2013 #35
Surely I didn't need the little sign! Buzz Clik May 2013 #36
Seems the genocidal dog haters lack the sarcasm gene. baldguy May 2013 #48
i thought you were being serious. sorry. eom ellenfl May 2013 #90
Now for a reality check: ErikJ May 2013 #41
And media reports are notoriously inaccurate when in reporting the breed in dog attack stories. baldguy May 2013 #42
there are plenty of threads shitting all over pits. kindly shit in one of those PeaceNikki May 2013 #44
There are plenty of shit on pit bull... one_voice May 2013 #50
Dog breeders are shit-STOP the insanity ErikJ May 2013 #51
And spreading lies about the majority of normal, well-adjusted, happy family dogs is evil. baldguy May 2013 #52
I was talking most specifically about the English Bull Dog but it does apply to other breeds as well ErikJ May 2013 #58
No, you weren't. You're just spreading shit. baldguy May 2013 #59
Breeding dogs to kill other dogs is equally bad or worse. ErikJ May 2013 #60
Look at the OP again. Just like 99.99999% of all dogs, not a killer in the bunch. baldguy May 2013 #61
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #63
The animal abusers are doing what you want them to do: punishing your guilty party. baldguy May 2013 #66
Yes! PEOPLE are the evil ones breeding killer dogs. ErikJ May 2013 #68
And 99.99999% aren't killers. Yet you want to do away with them anyway. baldguy May 2013 #69
Pit bulls are a product of MAN! NOT GOD! ErikJ May 2013 #70
So are horses. And they kill more people than dogs do each year. baldguy May 2013 #72
you should look into how many in the op were rescued. PeaceNikki May 2013 #53
Dog breeders you say? one_voice May 2013 #55
And if you look up further in the thread LostOne4Ever May 2013 #62
Oh boy, is the NRA branching into Pit bulls now? nt ErikJ May 2013 #64
If you think LostOne4Ever May 2013 #65
Too Absurd ErikJ May 2013 #67
You know those numbers are based on incorrect & inaccurate media reports. baldguy May 2013 #71
Your premise is absurd. flvegan May 2013 #74
That would require the NRA to have a sense of ethics. Scootaloo May 2013 #76
0% BainsBane May 2013 #46
OH MY GAWDS THOSE EVIL DAWGS SHOULD BE PUT TO DEATH!!! 1111 Apophis May 2013 #34
Why don't you just buy into the pitbull hysteria like everyone else!? Rex May 2013 #37
I've got this little girl to keep me grounded in reality. baldguy May 2013 #38
aw she's a beaut!!! Skittles May 2013 #80
She looks cute and dorkly! especially her ears! x darkangel218 May 2013 #81
Beautiful dog, I can tell you take great care of her. Rex May 2013 #93
she's beautiful! eom ellenfl May 2013 #94
Torrey Smith does fundraising for our Baltimore animal shelter shireen May 2013 #39
My baby girl pit does that too, and I call it "helicopter hinee" dorkzilla May 2013 #83
Welll golly gee willikers... 99Forever May 2013 #45
here`s a favorite of mine.. opiate69 May 2013 #47
Rachel Ray's dog looks like my Baby Girl susanr516 May 2013 #49
Ten minutes after the photoshoot, all of them died!!!!!! ZombieHorde May 2013 #54
Worse-their faces were ripped off. ErikJ May 2013 #56
Aaaahhhhh! nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #57
Sweet! I didn't know what to expect before I saw the photos... Quantess May 2013 #75
Our pit is the sweetest damn animal you'd ever wanna meet ... brett_jv May 2013 #78
Bless you, BaldGuy! dorkzilla May 2013 #84
So baldguy, if abuse is the reason these dogs become violent whatchamacallit May 2013 #86
Tragically, these are the last known photos of the victims ... DirkGently May 2013 #87
Are you sure those are pit bulls? GaYellowDawg May 2013 #91
Ut oh... 99Forever May 2013 #92
I call them Pit Bulls simply because their owners do. baldguy May 2013 #97
Insufficient. Where are the papers? GaYellowDawg May 2013 #99
The breed only matters when dumbfucks are looking to place blame on someone. baldguy May 2013 #100
OR when you're being hypocritical about it. GaYellowDawg May 2013 #102
What is a breed other than a race of dog? baldguy May 2013 #103
It's very different. And where are the papers? GaYellowDawg May 2013 #109
Our Border Collie "Mix" Rescue Dog Turned Out To Be A "Pitbull" Tace May 2013 #95
More guns!!! Iggo May 2013 #98
Cute puppehs! nt tblue37 May 2013 #101
It is not the dog that is the problem. It is the people that care for them. LiberalFighter May 2013 #104
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