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delrem

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46. No. This isn't "selling soap" ffs.

Sun May 19, 2013, 09:51 PM

May 2013

This is recognized as important just because she is who she is, regardless of whether anyone is a fan, or likes her or likes celebrity culture. It helps mainstream many issues regarding cancer and esp. breast cancer that are easily swept under the rug, so the majority are unaware.
Just one example
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/may/19/angelina-jolie-cancer-row-genetic-technology
Angelina Jolie's cancer decision highlights row over genetic technology
Concerns that firms' rights to hold patents on genes linked to breast cancer is pushing up cost of testing for disease.
Also highlighted are issues w.r.t. affordability in countries which don't have regulated single payer care.

Another big issue that your crankiness dismisses is psychological, the fact that a good part of Angela Jolie's celebrity is based on her looks, her associations with "the beautiful people" - not to diminish her talent and achievement in any way. Whatever contempt one may have toward the 100% celebrity oriented papers and mags and shows, and the people who are addicted to tuning in, the fact is that when those mags and shows now tout her as being even more beautiful and courageous it is stereotype breaking and is positive.

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IMO, people who diss Angelina Jolie [View all] darkangel218 May 2013 OP

It appears to be predominently men doing so... which raises some significant questions... hlthe2b May 2013 #1

"predominently men"? What, even remotely, leads you to that conclusion? AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #5

I never said "me" (i.e., you?) hlthe2b May 2013 #7

typographical error - now corrected AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #10

circumsized vs uncircumsized H2O Man May 2013 #12

to the men who have expressed compassion and understanding of the issue hlthe2b May 2013 #23

there are also people who can be relied upon to jump into threads in order to try and tell us BlancheSplanchnik May 2013 #24

"people who can be relied upon to jump into threads" -- Referring to yourself? AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #33

oh, are you part of "the brotherhood"? BlancheSplanchnik May 2013 #38

Are you? n/t AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #42

Who knows what the fuck is wrong with these people BainsBane May 2013 #2

Recommended. H2O Man May 2013 #3

It'd be wonderful to have her looks and her money... lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #4

It isn't coming to defense of her and her celebrity... It is recognizing a very difficult choice and hlthe2b May 2013 #8

She's just a person, maximizing her opportunities and doing the things that bring fulfillment. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #9

I haven't built any homes for folks displaced by Katrina BainsBane May 2013 #11

a celebrity who lives that old saying,"To whom much is given, much is expected" BlancheSplanchnik May 2013 #25

Her celebrity is her asset. It's impossible to separate the things she does for altruistic reasons. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #28

Her job is to act BainsBane May 2013 #47

I don't resent her for it. Neither do I idolize her for it. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #50

The last thing she needs is more press attention BainsBane May 2013 #58

not sure if serious. nt lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #59

I imagine I'd do my best to trivialize, minimize and call into question the motivation LanternWaste May 2013 #80

"If"? lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #89

Whathefuck?! Newsflash: The difference is Bill's overwhelmingly RIGHT-WING, PRO CORPORATE largesse. redqueen May 2013 #90

You're just jealous that you can't match his amazing human beign-ness. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #91

And I'm pretty cynical about WeekendWarrior May 2013 #18

What? sheshe2 May 2013 #34

a) the words in my mouth? I choose them. lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #40

1) I never said she was Jesus. sheshe2 May 2013 #44

It's a question now? Then your answer is "no." lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #53

Men are not often Tien1985 May 2013 #15

"unless Jolie has roughly 400 sock puppets on DU, they're not your boobs either." <--- BlancheSplanchnik May 2013 #29

LOL! lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #30

oh no, this isn't about celebrity worship at all. And, your dogwhistle is noted. BlancheSplanchnik May 2013 #37

I think the word you're looking for is.... ReRe May 2013 #49

No. This isn't "selling soap" ffs. delrem May 2013 #46

I would agree if this read, "IMO, people who diss Angelina Jolie over her decision to have a double ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #6

Rec. If they don't have anything nice to say pintobean May 2013 #13

+1 BainsBane May 2013 #14

To me, she seems to be weird pintobean May 2013 #19

There is no excuse to diss her now. Cha May 2013 #16

'Dedicating her life' might be a bit of hyperbole. But I agree with everything else. randome May 2013 #17

"might be a little bit of hyperbole"? Ya think? n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #32

Everytime I hear someone say "oh they are just jealous" I think of high school Marrah_G May 2013 #20

'Not liking' her is one thing. Going out of the way to belittle her is another. randome May 2013 #21

True, but neither assumes jealousy Marrah_G May 2013 #22

+1. HiPointDem May 2013 #62

Especially Jennifer Aniston. Shrike47 May 2013 #26

I'm jealous Canuckistanian May 2013 #27

i agree. nt DesertFlower May 2013 #31

K&R! sheshe2 May 2013 #35

I want to rec this, but I feel like I shouldn't assume motivation. ZombieHorde May 2013 #36

Helping by stealing poor families children? me b zola May 2013 #39

Is that what you call adoption? BainsBane May 2013 #70

Actually there are pretty good alternate explanations... Deep13 May 2013 #41

Oh, really? That's a really remarkable, arrogant, assumptive statement. NRaleighLiberal May 2013 #43

Reductio ad absurdum.... NYC_SKP May 2013 #51

Is it the skinny green foliage? the aromatic aroma? the promise of red orbs to come? NRaleighLiberal May 2013 #54

It's the memories! NYC_SKP May 2013 #56

Not interested in dissing her... davidthegnome May 2013 #45

"plenty of women have had that procedure" darkangel218 May 2013 #67

A fair point. davidthegnome May 2013 #74

K&R!!! n/t DeSwiss May 2013 #48

I feel a great deal of empathy for her; she deserves support. badtoworse May 2013 #52

Yes, but it's a particular type of jealousy... ReRe May 2013 #55

IMO, I don't give a shit tech3149 May 2013 #57

^^ this ^^ bunnies May 2013 #85

This is absurd, there are very good reasons not to like her CrawlingChaos May 2013 #60

Jennifer, is that you? darkangel218 May 2013 #61

How old are you? Marrah_G May 2013 #68

15... tops. At least, I hope. ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #88

DUzy! BainsBane May 2013 #69

+100. HiPointDem May 2013 #63

lol darkangel218 May 2013 #64

i find you as lol as you find me HiPointDem May 2013 #65

I find you ... fill in the blank. darkangel218 May 2013 #66

Sorry - I don't do celebrity worship leftynyc May 2013 #71

Insurence companies DO pay for BRCA!! i fuking had the test two years ago!! darkangel218 May 2013 #72

The test - yes leftynyc May 2013 #73

Most do if the person tests BainsBane May 2013 #75

My point is that even with leftynyc May 2013 #76

Wow, I hope that's true! I bet a lot of people didn't know that. bettyellen May 2013 #82

My insurence would have paid for entire cost of surgery darkangel218 May 2013 #78

I'm sorry about your mom leftynyc May 2013 #79

THANK YOU!!! ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #81

LOL!! darkangel218 May 2013 #83

What I love most is how you conveniently skipped over my sensible post to you yesterday. ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #84

NOT interested in your negativity. darkangel218 May 2013 #86

You mean the part where I defended her humanitarianism? Okay. ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #87

that is a good illustration of typical "fanboy" thinking quinnox May 2013 #77