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NuttyFluffers

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79. the cost benefit analysis says it's too much $$$.

Wed May 22, 2013, 01:15 AM

May 2013

a few children are expendable to construction company profits and school board admin salaries.

*cough*

forgive me there, I briefly became an un-American socialist-fascist politicizing this tragedy in the face tenuous reconstruction contracts and charity fundraising. i forgot my priorities. 'an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and goddamit, that costs us a sale!'

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I spent two years in college in Kansas. [View all] Cleita May 2013 OP

Because taxes. Lex May 2013 #1

There are high water tables in Oklahoma - basements flood! TheDebbieDee May 2013 #2

I'm not talking about a house basement, I'm talking about a concrete Cleita May 2013 #4

Oklahoma has regulations barring the construction of below-ground, steel-reinforced TheDebbieDee May 2013 #16

Nooo, Debbie, its got to be all political!! Everything's political!! CAG May 2013 #5

Not to change the subject, but does your username have anything to do with Naval Aviation? 11 Bravo May 2013 #58

No, just a nickname from childhood CAG May 2013 #72

They'd apparently rather just pray and hope that Gawd kestrel91316 May 2013 #3

Not only that, many of those cities will pony up the money Cleita May 2013 #6

oooh, yet another opportunistic agnostic televangelist CAG May 2013 #8

Love it! Called it for what it is. cordelia May 2013 #33

And that's the freaking truth malaise May 2013 #51

Tornado deaths average about 80 per year. A low number.... Logical May 2013 #7

OMG! You seem to not think those children who are dead and missing Cleita May 2013 #10

Money is not unlimited! You realize that? 6000 children die in... Logical May 2013 #14

There's plenty of money once we get it away from the 1%. Cleita May 2013 #17

Fatal tornados are extremely rare events. n-t Logical May 2013 #19

Fatal anything are rare events, yet if there are chances they could Cleita May 2013 #20

And if you knew one state would receive all the tornados we... Logical May 2013 #21

I think schools and hospitals should be made safe if nothing else. Cleita May 2013 #22

hat is the precise number of deaths needed to "consider spending a lot of money..."? LanternWaste May 2013 #54

Bedrock. To create basements or tunnels requires dynamite. kwassa May 2013 #9

These are people's children we are talking about. Cleita May 2013 #12

It sounds like you are another one willing to spend as much ...... oldhippie May 2013 #60

Yes, I am, socialist commie that I am. Also, I don't believe it's Cleita May 2013 #62

This is Nothing Compared to The Subsidies and Money Hidden by American Corporations otohara May 2013 #66

WTF are you talking about? ..... oldhippie May 2013 #69

I've seen steel reinforced concrete slabs over 6 feet thick busted up with big jack hammers. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #48

I've seen rock dynamited to get at ores in mines and Cleita May 2013 #65

Thank you. First thing I thought. onehandle May 2013 #11

And there are those who are saying it would be too expensive Cleita May 2013 #13

You seem to be to emotional to discuss this! n-t Logical May 2013 #15

Of course I'm emotional. I actually have a heart. Cleita May 2013 #18

We make these kind of calculations all the time. randome May 2013 #34

Therein lies the problem. It's a conservative problem, we can't save one life Cleita May 2013 #37

We should lower the speed limit back down to 55 to save lives. randome May 2013 #75

False equivalency argument. Cleita May 2013 #76

What then is the precise amount of deaths that would then allow consideration for the construction? LanternWaste May 2013 #55

There isn't a spreadsheet calculation to identify that. randome May 2013 #74

You seem to be applying a subjective premise to an objective measure-- quite emotional also. LanternWaste May 2013 #56

How much should you spend to save 1 life in a million to 1 chance? n-t Logical May 2013 #57

I do not know why those schools did not have storm shelters LeftInTX May 2013 #23

Really, in San Antonio? Cleita May 2013 #24

I've lived here 30 years LeftInTX May 2013 #25

Yep, I do remember the flooding. Scary weather all right. Cleita May 2013 #28

Real estate developers and corrupt legislators. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #26

I'm not buy the rocky ground argument for not building bunkers. Cleita May 2013 #30

You're absolutely right. That's just an excuse. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #36

Thank you. Until we dump the "it can't be done" BS, we will still live in the Cleita May 2013 #40

Or the lame Dynamite excuse either. Ganja Ninja May 2013 #50

Even if dynamite is required, it's the cheapest stuff around. n/t Cleita May 2013 #52

It isn't? How would you do it? kwassa May 2013 #73

Low bid regulations for public buildings. SoCalDem May 2013 #27

Now I just heard that Senator Coburn of OK doesn't want any disaster Cleita May 2013 #29

Regardless of who the low bidder is on a building ... Ganja Ninja May 2013 #49

MONEY... cynatnite May 2013 #31

If there were oil under there they would find the money, trust me. Cleita May 2013 #32

I'm not disagreeing. I grew up in Moore... cynatnite May 2013 #35

I'm not talking basements, but bunkers and tunnels, a difference. Cleita May 2013 #38

There are thousands of schools in tornado alley which stretches across several states... cynatnite May 2013 #41

Sure there is. Why the fuck not? closeupready May 2013 #42

You are talking tens of thousands of schools in small towns... cynatnite May 2013 #44

Many of those eight states you speak of have had the foresight to install such Cleita May 2013 #53

Really? Look at our military budget and cut it in half, which is what Cleita May 2013 #43

It's not just the money... cynatnite May 2013 #45

Not all those schools in all those states are in areas where rock has to Cleita May 2013 #46

It took 8 years to put a man on the moon, but closeupready May 2013 #47

It's a valid question, IMO. closeupready May 2013 #39

Soil must not have been hard in that part of KS pstokely May 2013 #59

Hard has nothing to do with it. It's an unwillingness to invest in infrastructure Cleita May 2013 #64

Did you go to K-state or kU? pstokely May 2013 #78

I went to St. Mary College in Leavenworth and they were tunnels not basements. Cleita May 2013 #80

What college did you go to in Kansas. 1KansasDem May 2013 #61

I didn't go to a university but a woman's college. Cleita May 2013 #63

tunnels must be very expensive. Liberal_in_LA May 2013 #67

So is life. I hope you aren't on the "it's okay to lose lives when they Cleita May 2013 #68

no, but communities are unlikely to include tunnels under every public building Liberal_in_LA May 2013 #70

Somebody else had a suggestion about community tunnels or bunkers Cleita May 2013 #71

Rachel just said that there are FEMA funds available for safe rooms to Cleita May 2013 #77

the cost benefit analysis says it's too much $$$. NuttyFluffers May 2013 #79

Thank you. Cleita May 2013 #81