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winter is coming

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4. +1. This describes it well, IMO.

Wed May 22, 2013, 07:28 AM

May 2013

Some people say the word “caliche” is Spanish for “what in the name of ##**%##! is this ##$**!” In reality, caliche is a hard, compacted soil cemented together by calcium carbonate (lime.) Cemented is the defining word here. If you run into caliche, you will need at least one of the following: jackhammer, dynamite, or a willingness to change the location of the hole.

www.smilingdoglandscapes.com/articles/Soil%20&%20Caliche.pdf

So no, they're not on the crack pipe. I used to live in Austin, and they used dynamite to blast out holes for foundations, and that was just for houses built on a slab, not something with an actual basement. If you wanted to install a mailbox, you used a 6' crowbar to slowly dig out a hole, placed the mailbox pole, put the loose caleche around it, and added water. No cement necessary.

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1.4 MILLION per school? for shelters? Are they on the crack-pipe? [View all] SoCalDem May 2013 OP

The main problem with underground shelters is that you BlueToTheBone May 2013 #1

That "issue" was discussed ad nauseum yesterday SoCalDem May 2013 #2

The schools could also be community shelters. kentuck May 2013 #3

That's what they did in Wadena Minnesota MrsMatt May 2013 #26

Doubt Oklahoma pols will ever tamp down egregious oil-industry subsidies to fund shelters indepat May 2013 #51

If you have that other thing...money to do what you want and need to do. BlueToTheBone May 2013 #5

I used my Tornado Shelter for a Darkroom formercia May 2013 #25

+1. This describes it well, IMO. winter is coming May 2013 #4

You've inadvertently spelled "kolache" kentauros May 2013 #7

lol! I'm hungry BlueToTheBone May 2013 #9

No problem! kentauros May 2013 #13

"...you can't dig in the ground." KansDem May 2013 #10

Well, they have all the money in the world and BlueToTheBone May 2013 #12

Your average homeowner won't be able to rent a trencher as pictured above, kentauros May 2013 #15

As we speak, Pipeline is Being Built in Oklahoma wercal May 2013 #32

This was discussed yesterday wercal May 2013 #30

hmmmm. my civil engineer friend from OK galileoreloaded May 2013 #35

I'm actually from Kansas wercal May 2013 #36

so it sounds like we are close. galileoreloaded May 2013 #37

For my personal use wercal May 2013 #39

snd you should because you are an engineer galileoreloaded May 2013 #42

I wouldn't have a problem putting my kids in a tank either wercal May 2013 #46

i agree w you completely. just a huge issue with the ignorance sometimes. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #47

Rebuild homes each with above ground shelter. godai May 2013 #6

I would hope, then, that such an above-ground structure kentauros May 2013 #11

those storms are amazing, aren't they? BlueToTheBone May 2013 #14

At the same time we also make things that blow up spectacularly. kentauros May 2013 #16

Wow! I'm glad I missed that! BlueToTheBone May 2013 #17

I can't find anything on it, as I don't recall enough details. kentauros May 2013 #19

It is concrete and steel. godai May 2013 #21

Okay, so it's partially buried. kentauros May 2013 #23

can't do waivers Niceguy1 May 2013 #8

Would those protect against flooding, if buried? hlthe2b May 2013 #18

I wonder about that when I see these suggestions. kentauros May 2013 #20

And the loss of even 1 child if they aren't built? n2doc May 2013 #22

acts of nature Niceguy1 May 2013 #24

Protecting them from harm is not in 'God's' Job Description formercia May 2013 #29

The state is n2doc May 2013 #38

does the law require a safe area? Niceguy1 May 2013 #50

They would have to be handicap accessible too. $1.4 million sounds right. FSogol May 2013 #27

Well, I guess funerals are cheaper.. SoCalDem May 2013 #28

When we designed the new gym addition to our high school wercal May 2013 #31

seriously? galileoreloaded May 2013 #33

You first SoCalDem May 2013 #43

well, me and the civil engineer from kansas already debunked your thread galileoreloaded May 2013 #45

I hope they get NO federal money for this taught_me_patience May 2013 #34

I live in Oklahoma City and have looked at having an underground shelter put in RedEarth May 2013 #40

the figure came from the link I posted SoCalDem May 2013 #44

No, "they" aren't on crack. The building contractors are! nt kelliekat44 May 2013 #41

One) Shipping container won't really cut it. Lady Freedom Returns May 2013 #48

$400,000 to construct a shelter and $1,000,000 to do it compliant with all rules and regs FarCenter May 2013 #49