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150. Nope, you missed mine

Thu May 23, 2013, 08:33 AM

May 2013

and the answers to your questions, while easy, don't support your claim.

To believe that the "majority" of GWB's supporters were "fundie christians" you must be under the delusion

that a little more than HALF of the US population (the number that re-elected him in '04) were "fundie christians".

Sorry, bro, but that's delusional. The number of "fundamentalist christians" in this country is nowhere NEAR that high.

Yes, I know idiot Bush called the Iraq War a "crusade", but no one besides bin Laden and a few crazed fundies

here ever believed that. Most of us believed it to be about either oil, terrorism, or both.

The fact that 85 percent of troops in Iraq believed Iraq was behind 9/11, speaks to ignorance of facts,

not religious indoctrination, your infinitesimal number who believed it was a "war against Islam", not withstanding.

I hardly need a "warning" regarding propaganda as I'm a senior citizen who has seen, heard, and

lived more history, American and otherwise, than you can probably imagine.

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Jesus fucking Christ. randome May 2013 #1

There was more than one and they were filming each other and asked passersby to also film. snagglepuss May 2013 #3

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Yeah, that's kind of depressing. Always be prepared, I suppose. randome May 2013 #66

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Hats off to you, that takes a lot of dedication. rl6214 May 2013 #164

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I wonder if the ECHR will uphold his inevitable asylum claim nt geek tragedy May 2013 #2

Big man BeyondGeography May 2013 #5

Boko Haram comes to London? Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #6

When have we ever really been safe? n/t winter is coming May 2013 #7

Sickening troglodytes are a cancer on society.nt sufrommich May 2013 #8

which trogs on which society? tiny elvis May 2013 #137

"in our land..." Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #9

Sorry, white man's burden and all that. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #11

oh nebenaube May 2013 #17

Yes, but it didn't really break out until the post-war era. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #20

Didn't Shakepeare smoke cannibis? coldmountain May 2013 #106

I initially thought you referred to "cannibals", not cannabis. Shrike47 May 2013 #29

I don't think too many English now living had a choice in that matter... JHB May 2013 #99

+1 n/t Skip Intro May 2013 #19

there is no thought in that response tiny elvis May 2013 #135

One thing in common with people here in the US like Bachmann... Archae May 2013 #10

False equivalency. former9thward May 2013 #12

Amen to that. n/t cigsandcoffee May 2013 #15

Scott Roeder is a fundy. Archae May 2013 #16

Got anything more recent than leftynyc May 2013 #25

LOL n/t whathehell May 2013 #31

Anders Breivik thought he was some kind of Knight Templar. CJCRANE May 2013 #42

It'll make for an interesting discussion leftynyc May 2013 #47

Yeah sure, but he didn't behead him so it doesn't count. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #26

If you're going to do the leftynyc May 2013 #41

As per my post #42... CJCRANE May 2013 #46

And what propoganda leftynyc May 2013 #56

I didn't say "forced". I implied "influenced". Look at "Rwanda Radio" CJCRANE May 2013 #58

Yeah, fundies usually limit themselves to LuvNewcastle May 2013 #48

Not sure what thread you're reading but the one I read has some people dumping on fundamentalism. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #51

I'm reading the same thread you are leftynyc May 2013 #52

A minute ago you were looking for something more recent than 4years ago, Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #60

Try and keep up leftynyc May 2013 #140

But they do help make the social and legislative climate more hostile to LGBT folks, nomorenomore08 May 2013 #71

I am defending reality. former9thward May 2013 #72

Okay, point taken. We're "not as a bad as them" (in this respect). nomorenomore08 May 2013 #75

Can you name the countries where "gays are hanged and women stoned" please? Turborama May 2013 #122

That's a softball question Separation May 2013 #126

No, it isn't. Only* one of those countries (Iran) has hanged gay people recently Turborama May 2013 #128

http://m.ranker.com/list/7-worst-capital-punishments-for-being-_illegally_-gay/joanne Separation May 2013 #132

Links don't work in post titles Turborama May 2013 #143

Yes, it is -- Women continue to be stoned and beheaded in Iran and other Islamic countries. whathehell May 2013 #159

The Taliban were stoning women in Afghanistan before we threw them out. former9thward May 2013 #173

Fundies in the US WANT to be able to stone to death anyone they think isn't following their god, kestrel91316 May 2013 #78

Exactly. nt Pale Blue Dot May 2013 #94

BS Niceguy1 May 2013 #139

Thank you . n/t whathehell May 2013 #160

American fundies are responsible for the Iraq War and a hole host of other atrocities Downtown Hound May 2013 #167

Oh please...Now you're a mind reader? whathehell May 2013 #157

Yes, dragging homosexuals to death behind cars is much better jberryhill May 2013 #79

Bang on. The whataboutery that always surfaces is contemptible. snagglepuss May 2013 #84

No, they have less photogenic ways of killing people they dislike Scootaloo May 2013 #127

True, but there are some of them who would gladly unleash world conflagration in the name Skidmore May 2013 #142

^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #149

Probably more like the Boston bombers: self-radicalized. CJCRANE May 2013 #13

Bachmann beheaded people? Whom, and when? Call the FBI. nt Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #32

american fundementalists are disney actors. galileoreloaded May 2013 #54

I could be wrong, but I suspect that higher living standards and relative social cohesion nomorenomore08 May 2013 #73

yep. people here bitch, but they dont know. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #74

Hardly a reason to take our eyes off our own fundies, though. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #77

+1 JustAnotherGen May 2013 #151

The 9/11 hijackers were from affluent families, most of them geek tragedy May 2013 #83

But that may well be the exception that proves the rule. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #86

The USA is on the short list of more extreme wealth disparities. Quantess May 2013 #124

I realize that. We do have the highest disparity, by far, of "developed" nations. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #129

Oh and BTW, Quantess May 2013 #133

I didn't think you were. nomorenomore08 May 2013 #134

It was tougher than I thought to find either Saudia Arabia or United Arab Emirates Quantess May 2013 #131

That is a good point. hrmjustin May 2013 #104

They have not killed people although I think Bachmann has the potential to kill. hrmjustin May 2013 #102

Sharia Law Kills Gays and Women Mango40 May 2013 #156

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #14

What a trollish first post BeyondGeography May 2013 #18

Jurors got it right this time. Good. uppityperson May 2013 #23

its weird how so many of these lunatics seem attracted to and drawn in to the muslim religion quinnox May 2013 #21

Oh fer crying out loud, Christianity has had it's moments. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #24

true, but I'm talking recently, not ancient history quinnox May 2013 #27

I must have missed those by Christians in the US. nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #28

You might have, and that's understandable, as those perps were a tad less open & brazen about it. whathehell May 2013 #33

Apparently you aren't familiar with the Church of the Aryan Nation. Cleita May 2013 #81

That's an intrinsically flawed understanding. Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #82

What ?? What ?? jessie04 May 2013 #170

To paraphrase a poster up thread, got anything more recent than 600 years? whathehell May 2013 #37

+1 Libertas1776 May 2013 #40

I used "pathetic" leftynyc May 2013 #44

Agreed. Thanks. n/t whathehell May 2013 #68

Anders Breivik, the LRA... CJCRANE May 2013 #49

Keep searching, lol. whathehell May 2013 #67

I'm not searching. It's not my job to knock down CJCRANE May 2013 #70

Whatever. whathehell May 2013 #85

Okay, let's say I reel off a litany of points and examples... CJCRANE May 2013 #90

If you could have done it, you, or some other nervous PCer here would have. whathehell May 2013 #105

You just missed the point of my post. CJCRANE May 2013 #119

Nope, you missed mine whathehell May 2013 #150

Islamic fundamentalism has been raging since Muhammed died in 632 with the Shia/Sunni split riderinthestorm May 2013 #113

I was talking about the 20th century particularly the 60s and 70s. CJCRANE May 2013 #120

I don't understand your last two sentences. Are they a seque for something that I missed? riderinthestorm May 2013 #169

I'm talking about terrorism before the 1980s and after the 1980s. CJCRANE May 2013 #171

I aplologize that reality interferes with your religous views. jeff47 May 2013 #53

Much of that has been caused by Christian fundies LuvNewcastle May 2013 #57

Bullshit. whathehell May 2013 #88

All the bigotry and ignorance they preach does at least LuvNewcastle May 2013 #101

Yeah, right, LOL. whathehell May 2013 #109

I really don't see anything funny. LuvNewcastle May 2013 #116

I'm sure you don't.. whathehell May 2013 #117

LOL...I don't have any "religious views" -- I'm agnostic. n/t whathehell May 2013 #65

I apologize that reality interferes with your need for political correctness. whathehell May 2013 #69

It's so unimportant to you that you replied multiple times? jeff47 May 2013 #115

Oh my. You are desperate, aren't you? whathehell May 2013 #118

Sorry, but your thesis is that Christians don't do this kind of thing jeff47 May 2013 #121

Sorry, but I presented no "thesis" of the kind, lol, and In fact, if you read whathehell May 2013 #147

Islam is about 700 years younger than our locally preferred version of the same fiction... Democracyinkind May 2013 #153

That's nice. whathehell May 2013 #174

I'd say it's fairly clear it's mostly the other way round - Islam is a cause, not just an attractor. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #30

There's something else going on here... CJCRANE May 2013 #38

I agree, and it is "religion" independent nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #43

Islam desperately needs its own Reformation. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #61

I don't know, if you look at the "Arab Spring" that was mostly started by liberals CJCRANE May 2013 #63

Very good observation. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #64

Yup, Wahhabi Islamic extremists. roamer65 May 2013 #97

i like wahhabi covered peanuts arely staircase May 2013 #163

Incredible backwards logic CrawlingChaos May 2013 #89

No, what you have said makes no sense to me. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #92

It makes no sense to say that terror begets terror? CrawlingChaos May 2013 #95

It makes no sense to say the West commits "massive terrorism" or call this "retaliatory". Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #123

staggering, EPIC bullshit CrawlingChaos May 2013 #136

Are you kidding? Tens of thousands Iraqis slaughtered by the U.S. Arugula Latte May 2013 #168

Terrorism does not just mean "anything bad I want to make a point about". Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #172

No, I'll tell you what's weird Scootaloo May 2013 #130

Did I miss the Blame Party 4Q2u2 May 2013 #22

Have the attackers been identified yet? Blue_Tires May 2013 #34

No, exceptionally little information right not except, unusually, a large amount of on-scene... Poll_Blind May 2013 #35

I'm watching the BBC livestream now... Blue_Tires May 2013 #36

If you mean named, no leftynyc May 2013 #45

omg Marrah_G May 2013 #50

We have a saying here in PA Dutch land: "Too soon old; too late schmart." WinkyDink May 2013 #55

It's fucking amazing Fgiriun May 2013 #59

They feed off each other. CJCRANE May 2013 #62

Wow! I just saw this on Al J. Cleita May 2013 #76

The first sentence is certainly misleading. When I asjr May 2013 #87

"You people?" Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #93

Sick-minded individuals everywhere. Will they ever stop? Amonester May 2013 #96

Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #100

Disagree if you want. roamer65 May 2013 #98

Warped fundy scum should be annihilated from the Earth. tabasco May 2013 #103

Religion is poison. roamer65 May 2013 #108

Blaming "religion" for atrocities like these, is like blaming "government" for Nazi death camps. whathehell May 2013 #111

The riots are starting in Woolwich. roamer65 May 2013 #107

The EDL took to the street in huge numbers. MADem May 2013 #141

"You people?" Well, that is just rude. nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #110

Those two crusaders just drove millions of people into the "nuke them all" camp. Marr May 2013 #112

naturally, because there are only two effective ways to make it stop tiny elvis May 2013 #138

What a horrific act - but I have to ask a question malaise May 2013 #144

A crusade is nothing more than a Christian jihad, and LuvNewcastle May 2013 #145

And it was deliberate malaise May 2013 #146

Please...The ":Crusades" were over several hundred years ago, despite whathehell May 2013 #152

Tell it to the hundreds of thousands of people who LuvNewcastle May 2013 #154

Nah.. whathehell May 2013 #155

You haven't shown shit, LuvNewcastle May 2013 #158

I have, actually, and smilies actually do help those lacking reading comprehension skill. whathehell May 2013 #161

We won't, of course, ever be "safe" n2doc May 2013 #148

It's almost as if, with endless drone warfare (terrorism) against multiple Muslim nations Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #162

America has a special talent for finding enemies. LuvNewcastle May 2013 #165