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273. Correction--the GOP has had hardly any debates so far

Fri Dec 16, 2011, 07:08 PM

Dec 2011

They have had some farcical PR shows, but debates, where they discussed policy and world view differences?

There don't seem to have been many (if any) of those of late. Any time one of them, like Paul or Huntsman,
tries to seriously argue a viewpoint, the clowns hog the stage and bring the show back to its circus-like level
in a hurry. It more like a string of kids running for student council, except that my memory of kids in my school
running for student council had a much higher level of discourse. The Republicans seems to think the presidency
of the United States requires less sophistication than the person who represents the student body of a high
school--and if they DON'T think that, they disguise their feelings on the subject better than the winner of a Vegas
poker tournament.

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That's because they're worried... ellisonz Dec 2011 #212

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