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NickB79

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9. You rely on the cops or you rely on yourself

Fri May 24, 2013, 07:14 AM

May 2013

There really aren't any other options. However, even with a fully stocked police department, there will be situations where it will take officers vital minutes to respond to a call. In those minutes, all kinds of shit can go down.

Short of giving every citizen their own personal armed guard, there will be instances where the police will not be able to help you. Those are the risks we take living in a society such as ours.

they must accept the argument that some people, based on the sacredness of human life, should not be forced to rely on owning their own gun for self-protection?

There is irony in someone proclaiming their belief in the sacredness of human life, and in the same breath saying they wish to rely on armed police with plenty of lethal weapons for their defense.

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Why not a "conscience clause" for those opposed to guns, akin to pharmacists [View all] ZRT2209 May 2013 OP

Did I miss something? Are we being required to own guns now? SheilaT May 2013 #1

per the teabagger argument: own a gun or getting raped is your own fault ZRT2209 May 2013 #2

Since when do we need to take anything teabaggers say in context with reality? nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #23

"Why should she be forced to pay with her life or safety because she chooses not to own a gun?" Jenoch May 2013 #3

sounds like you're saying it was her fault she was raped ZRT2209 May 2013 #4

no one said any such thing backwoodsbob May 2013 #7

Riddiculous marions ghost May 2013 #13

Shooting someone in self-defense while they are trying to rape you is not murder. (n/t) LAGC May 2013 #15

OK excuse me--let's get legal and call it homicide marions ghost May 2013 #16

Speaking as someone who's actually used a gun in self-defense NickB79 May 2013 #25

with people advocating guns as the solution marions ghost May 2013 #39

that's not a given, especially with these fucked-up right wing judges ZRT2209 May 2013 #19

I don't know how one could rationally read the post you replied to and come to that conclusion. tritsofme May 2013 #37

Gun Owners: "Join our cult or get raped" mwrguy May 2013 #5

exactly ZRT2209 May 2013 #6

+1 Nine May 2013 #12

More evidence for the basic proposition: gunners are assholes alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #14

+1. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #18

The teabagger argument is just more blame the victim twaddle magellan May 2013 #8

You rely on the cops or you rely on yourself NickB79 May 2013 #9

"conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" Recursion May 2013 #10

It takes a Republican gun nut to see things that way. Nine May 2013 #11

There are places Jenoch May 2013 #17

then don't live there ZRT2209 May 2013 #20

Well, there goes most US farmland NickB79 May 2013 #21

Or poor neighborhoods in urban centers.. X_Digger May 2013 #27

sounds like you want to live in Somalia where the biggest gun = the law ZRT2209 May 2013 #32

Sounds like you want a personal armed guard X_Digger May 2013 #33

So are we depopulating the rural countryside now? tritsofme May 2013 #36

What? Tommy_Carcetti May 2013 #22

So what are you saying kudzu22 May 2013 #24

Logic isn't your strong suit badtoworse May 2013 #26

use a gun or get raped. I love America! ZRT2209 May 2013 #29

I didn't see anyone on this thread say anything Jenoch May 2013 #40

No where is a civilian forced to own a firearm. aikoaiko May 2013 #28

if you don't want to own and use a gun, you get raped or killed. Good choices! ZRT2209 May 2013 #30

Show me where someone said that. aikoaiko May 2013 #34

Just as there are many risks and dangers associated with owning a gun. tritsofme May 2013 #38

Police have no legal obligation to come when you call. X_Digger May 2013 #31

Should the victim be prosected then HockeyMom May 2013 #35