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LostOne4Ever

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72. Thats what the FB page says!

Sat May 25, 2013, 04:30 PM

May 2013

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Where is the lie?

They met in September. They met shortly after the girls 18'th birthday. From the first time I saw this story here on DU I went to their facebook page and they stated this. The only place I have seen it said she was 17 were the news stories that can't seem to get their facts straight.

Here is the first version of the story I read. The story is wrong but it links back to their facebook page which again says clearly she was 18 when they met.

http://www.examiner.com/article/florida-teen-fights-expulsion-and-criminal-charges-for-same-sex-relationship

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Kaitlyn Hunt's parents lied [View all] cali May 2013 OP

I thought a 4 year difference dipsydoodle May 2013 #1

no. cali May 2013 #2

Actually, if the younger party is under 16 period. HooptieWagon May 2013 #3

Depend on the state. Some states have 3 year difference. Some don't have any difference. LisaL May 2013 #28

Kick! arthritisR_US May 2013 #105

Its too bad. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #4

She can't legally consent at 14 or 15 madville May 2013 #6

But how old is the other party? napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #8

The law draws lines onenote May 2013 #14

Yes. I don't think a felony charge is warranted at all in this case, but there is generally a whathehell May 2013 #101

This is true. 18 year olds can vote and sign up to join the military. MADem May 2013 #129

She can not legally consent. LisaL May 2013 #29

The law says she can't consent, but she did. backscatter712 May 2013 #66

No...the point is that she cannot consent. nt msanthrope May 2013 #86

So if a 50 year old man had sex with a 14 year old girl, it would be ok if she consented? Travis_0004 May 2013 #102

I'm just asking for a sanity check here. napoleon_in_rags May 2013 #84

It happened all the time when I went to high school. Jennicut May 2013 #87

Something smells off about this "Story" you've posted. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #5

there is no story. It's the fucking affadavit. cali May 2013 #11

An affadavit is the "victims" side of the story krawhitham May 2013 #32

are actually suggesting that the dob of Kaitlyn is made up by the cops? cali May 2013 #35

DOB is not what is in doubt krawhitham May 2013 #108

Did you even read it? lunamagica May 2013 #36

I did, you did not or did not understand krawhitham May 2013 #107

Wow! 18 and 3 months blueamy66 May 2013 #7

yes, it makes a big difference cali May 2013 #12

The "3 months" doesn't matter to me. blueamy66 May 2013 #21

Just because you think some law is BS, doesn't mean you can then just ignore it and do as you LisaL May 2013 #77

I didn't. But friend did. Thank God your police didn't intervene blueamy66 May 2013 #97

Well, after thinking about it, yes I can blueamy66 May 2013 #98

I dont think he said to ignore it. I think he's just making an opinion on it davidn3600 May 2013 #99

Well, the law IS the law, unrealistic or not. WinkyDink May 2013 #92

I think it is a disagreement as to what dating means. You are measuring it by their first sexual stevenleser May 2013 #9

I'll second that. Democracyinkind May 2013 #10

you didn't read the affadavit. According to HUNT they started dating in November cali May 2013 #13

I think it is still unclear. They were good friends a long time before that. Do you always draw such stevenleser May 2013 #15

could you post a link to something (other than her parents or her) cali May 2013 #17

Aren't they a little far in age to have been friends for that long? dkf May 2013 #63

The 18 yr. old might have been her babysitter loyalsister May 2013 #110

Yikes. That would be the worst possibility. dkf May 2013 #111

No doubt loyalsister May 2013 #112

where do you get that from? magical thyme May 2013 #80

Then the oft repeated 'they were peers in high school' line goes out the window. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #113

To be fair shawn703 May 2013 #114

Fair enough. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #115

I would think the opposite is true. If they were friends for a long time they are definitely peers stevenleser May 2013 #128

Depends on what one considers the start of a relationship davidn3600 May 2013 #18

The affidavit does not identify when Hunt said they started dating Ms. Toad May 2013 #70

It doesn't matter when they started dating. Dating is not illegal if there is no sex involved. LisaL May 2013 #90

That is not the issue in this particular subthread. n/t Ms. Toad May 2013 #93

actually....you messed up the details. roughrider101 May 2013 #106

No. You are misreading it. Ms. Toad May 2013 #109

She is also basing this on a comment Kaitlyn's father made. Her mother has it all laid ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #53

yup. I've read the same in a couple places now. magical thyme May 2013 #16

Definitely statutory rape. A 14-year old cannot meaningfully "consent" to sex with an adult. Nye Bevan May 2013 #19

I disagree that a 14 year old cannot meaningfully consent to sex with an 18 year old cali May 2013 #20

Well, at least we both agree that it is a crime, and that is the main thing (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #26

"Statutory rape" is the most ridiculous fucking frame for this "crime". backscatter712 May 2013 #65

statuatory rape is all about age of consent. it has nothing to do with force. magical thyme May 2013 #69

Saying "she wasn't violently asssulted" or "where's the force and coercion" Nye Bevan May 2013 #75

this is the parents of the other girl dsc May 2013 #22

WTF are you talking about? LisaL May 2013 #30

the affadavit is what the parents of the other girl told police dsc May 2013 #31

no it's not. I suggest you learn to grasp basic information. cali May 2013 #37

it most certainly is dsc May 2013 #39

your reading and comprehension skills are seriously, er, limited. cali May 2013 #42

the fact is there is not one quote from Kaitlyn dsc May 2013 #46

bwahahahaha. what a heaping pile of stinking dog shit. cali May 2013 #78

From the OP abelenkpe May 2013 #33

ok once again very very slowly dsc May 2013 #34

It sure does, genius. fuck. read. the. affadavit. cali May 2013 #38

I did and no it doesnt dsc May 2013 #40

Pathetic. making shit up is not too swift. to put it kindly. cali May 2013 #43

NOw I will very slowly go paragraph by paragraph through the affadavit. dsc May 2013 #44

omfg. you are wrong wrong wrong wrong and here you go. I expect you to admit you were wrong now cali May 2013 #47

where are the quote marks? dsc May 2013 #49

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #51

according to the affadavit dsc May 2013 #55

Post an inaccurate pathetic OP, get a pathetic response. ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #56

gad. so many people here with reading comprehension problems cali May 2013 #60

Thats what the FB page says! LostOne4Ever May 2013 #72

Here's one place where they lied. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #116

Do you get it that that is exactly what it says on the facebook page? Gad, yourself. ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #83

The facebook page info may have been updated, but that is neither here nor there. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #117

check page 2 of the affidavit. magical thyme May 2013 #68

From the affidavit: lunamagica May 2013 #41

that isn't august last I checked dsc May 2013 #45

Cali said nothing about August except that that is when Kaitlyn Hunt was born. duh. cali May 2013 #48

cali's kind of a mess on this story... ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #85

Actually, the words in the last paragraph begin with "During the interview, Kaitlyn stated ..." AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #104

well... Celldweller May 2013 #23

One of my daughters decided she was bisexual at 14. randome May 2013 #24

good for you, good dad/mom :) nt Celldweller May 2013 #25

Thanks! Same to you! randome May 2013 #27

Kaitlyn's mother didn't lie. The ages have always been posted in the "about" section of the facebook ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #50

At the beginning of the school year Kaitlyn was 18. she turned 18 on August 14th. cali May 2013 #52

Her mother didn't lie, cali. And she didn't say she was 17 at the beginning of the school year. ScreamingMeemie May 2013 #54

her father certainly lied. Here: cali May 2013 #58

agreed, exactly. magical thyme May 2013 #64

We get it. You're cheerleading the ruining of a life. backscatter712 May 2013 #57

bzzzt. wrongo, hon. cali May 2013 #59

She chose to ruin her own life. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #61

Oh give me a fucking break. You'd really stand by while a life is ruined? backscatter712 May 2013 #67

Calling Ms. Toad! Calling Ms. Toad! magical thyme May 2013 #62

The problem for you straights is that you are highly selective in your fury Bluenorthwest May 2013 #71

I am sorry, but do you not realize that 17 is above the age of consent, while 14 is below? LisaL May 2013 #73

You might want to spend some time in the statutes... Ms. Toad May 2013 #74

Excuse me. 39 year old dating 17 year old would be legal in all states (as long as it didn't involve LisaL May 2013 #76

So would a 17 year old dating a 14 year old Ms. Toad May 2013 #79

Kaitlyn Hunt was 18 when they started dating, and 18 when they started having sex, per police LisaL May 2013 #81

Give me a break. Ms. Toad May 2013 #88

How exactly could you point out I was wrong, considering I was not wrong to begin with? LisaL May 2013 #89

As I pointed out - Ms. Toad May 2013 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author LisaL May 2013 #94

No, I am not under "mistaken impression." LisaL May 2013 #95

I don't believe you are being honest Ms. Toad May 2013 #96

Upthread it is alleged they dated. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #121

But that didn't happen. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #120

I suggest you go back and read the thread. Ms. Toad May 2013 #122

IN post 74 you appear to assume the relationship was sexual. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #124

There is really no point in raising Ms. Toad May 2013 #125

I think you raise valid criticism of BlueNorthwest's post. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #127

Not in florida. AtheistCrusader May 2013 #119

I don't give a damn about 17 year olds having sex, with who they choose, even if it's illegal. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #100

Did they have sex? AtheistCrusader May 2013 #118

In Seinfeld's defense Orrex May 2013 #123

When I first read the story I was angered at the justice system. alp227 May 2013 #82

Yes, the parents lied. NaturalHigh May 2013 #103

Recommended. H2O Man May 2013 #126

Hunt's parents went to the media and court of public opinion. HooptieWagon May 2013 #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #131