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Zorra

(27,670 posts)
39. Sometimes I wonder if some folks are genetically disposed to needing a king, queen
Sun May 26, 2013, 11:19 AM
May 2013

emperor, Fuhrer, Shah, Pope, President, "Prophet", Grand Wazoo, whatever, to follow. Either that, or they don't have the confidence in their own ability to distinguish right from wrong, so they allow a leader to determine what is right or wrong for them, and subsequently blindly accept the judgments of the leader, no matter how nefarious the intentions of the leader, and no matter how awful and destructive the consequences of the leader's judgment and subsequent actions are.

They can seemingly rationalize and justify anything, as long as it is sanctioned under the "supreme authority" of their leader.

The phenomenon of authority idolatry is fascinating, but really scary, in that some people will trust a leader instead of themselves and their better judgment, and will literally follow their idolized leader to destruction, while committing and supporting all sorts of immoral, unethical acts of violence and destruction.

They will commit or condone all sorts of immoral unspeakably wicked acts of violence and destruction and believe that doing so is justifiable, as long as they are ordered or sanctioned by their idolized authority figure leader.

Human history is full of examples of people blindly and mindlessly following or supporting leaders who order or sanction destruction, torture and murder in the name of material gain. Crusades, Inquisitions, invasions, slaughtering indigenous persons across the planet, and of course the prime example would be the blind adoration and following of Hitler and other fascist leaders in Europe during the last century.

Seriously ~ How could so many people blindly and adoringly follow a fuckstick dirtbag idiot monster like Hitler? What were they thinking?

The problem was, they weren't thinking. They trusted their idolized supreme authority figure, Hitler in this case, to do their thinking for them. Which leads many of us to ask once again ~



Indeed. How can almost 60,000,000 Americans be that unforgivably stupid?

When Occupy was in the first stages of the revolution, there were some posters here at DU who were horrified that Occupy has no leader. It seemed to so go against their strongly and dearly held belief that a single individual authority, such as a king, was absolutely necessary in order for a group to make genuinely democratic decisions and take effective action. The very idea of collective leadership seemed to frighten them and make them irrationally angry. It seemed that they literally could not, and still cannot, comprehend how a group of like minded individuals can form a democratic collective and take effective action without a single individual leader to be subject to, to follow, and take orders from.

Yet Occupy very rapidly and successfully achieved our first goal of permanently raising awareness of economic injustice and inequality all over the planet.

Question everything; bow to no one.

ok, we get it, she interrupted Obama Enrique May 2013 #1
Your reply suggests that you do not oppose uncontrolled US assault-weapons world-trade. patrice May 2013 #2
Oh for Chrissake..... FarPoint May 2013 #55
Until we change the dynamic. grahamhgreen May 2013 #76
Badly too madokie May 2013 #3
Who owns the force feeding? lame54 May 2013 #4
The President doesn't make those decisions madokie May 2013 #5
He could certainly stop it lame54 May 2013 #6
I doubt that its that easy madokie May 2013 #7
Obama told the government of Egypt to respect the rights of peaceful protesters Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #64
yep G_j May 2013 #84
There are consequences for any such decision, the first one being patrice May 2013 #9
It's their choice... lame54 May 2013 #14
Doesn't a choice have to be free, otherwise it is coercion, a reaction to coercion . . . patrice May 2013 #26
No... lame54 May 2013 #27
What did they do wrong other than being Muslims who were kidnapped and sold sabrina 1 May 2013 #54
So you want those prisoners to die of starvation? Skidmore May 2013 #30
Then you don't understand a whole lot... lame54 May 2013 #33
The buck stops where? grahamhgreen May 2013 #77
More than half of the disappeared have been cleared of all charges. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #28
I'm not so sure its because of the meany Obama madokie May 2013 #31
Do you think Congress is in charge of the prison? Warren Stupidity May 2013 #36
Thank you for this clarification. & Just as the President SHOULD take the political hit on this, so patrice May 2013 #34
your bullshit is unfettered. I suggest fettering it. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #49
Please stop with this obsessive stupidity. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #53
No, you don't get it. She (we) have the solution, he (you) are working on principles grahamhgreen May 2013 #75
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #85
Ever notice how much... 99Forever May 2013 #8
But... Bonobo May 2013 #10
Of course he does... 99Forever May 2013 #12
And striking out against THEM makes everyone feel better too whether it addresses what patrice May 2013 #20
And grandstanding doesn't have that same kind of appeal to the disempowered? What is MB's patrice May 2013 #17
Personality cults abound on all sides. However, not all support is of that type; some support is patrice May 2013 #11
Most... 99Forever May 2013 #13
Asinine post. Bobbie Jo May 2013 #15
Yes it was. 99Forever May 2013 #16
Perhaps I wasn't clear Bobbie Jo May 2013 #21
Perhaps I wasn't clear... 99Forever May 2013 #23
Then say what you mean. Bobbie Jo May 2013 #25
Passive aggressive bullshit? 99Forever May 2013 #51
You mean like when somebody questions the self-defeating behavior of lunatics like Medea? Buzz Clik May 2013 #18
More like implying that someone is mentally challenged and as such should be ignored. Just like YOU idwiyo May 2013 #58
Can I prove Media is legally insane? No. It was hyperbole. Buzz Clik May 2013 #59
At least you claim to be consistent in your statements. I give you a point for that. idwiyo May 2013 #60
"you resort to innuendo when nothing else works." Oh, please. Buzz Clik May 2013 #61
Guess that's explains why you didn't notice how many people here disagree with you on this topic. :) idwiyo May 2013 #63
Hear, hear! woo me with science May 2013 #68
Thank you! I find it hilarious that this poster put me on Ignore because I am British. :) idwiyo May 2013 #71
Yes...also sidetracking discussions...and the usual name calling of their fellow Dems. nt KoKo May 2013 #19
You mean like this? Bobbie Jo May 2013 #22
Sometimes I wonder if some folks are genetically disposed to needing a king, queen Zorra May 2013 #39
Interesting post Zorra.....and, thanks for taking the time to post it! KoKo May 2013 #62
What do you mean by "uncontrolled?" nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #24
Whatever allows those weapons to be used for terrorism, kidnapping, extortion & stuff like this: patrice May 2013 #29
Free will? nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #35
. . . is not a zero-sum commodity. Not all uncontrolled acts are the product of being free. Many, patrice May 2013 #38
Third thread!! burnodo May 2013 #32
What Benjamin did was kick off some political theater, you yourself provide the second act. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #37
I can't believe you're still pushing this nonsense. Marr May 2013 #40
Has MB expressed positive regard for the apostle of uncontrolled assault weapons markets, Rand Paul, patrice May 2013 #41
&, btw, She has a right to do that. I just want this contradiction in re drones out in the open.nt patrice May 2013 #42
So your contention is that finding common ground with a politician on one issue, in the hopes of Marr May 2013 #43
Obama praises Tom Coburn in last month's time magazine, OK is lucky to have Coburn, he says. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #45
That's a good citation. Marr May 2013 #46
In that piece, Obama speaks of legislation he made with Coburn, work they did together Bluenorthwest May 2013 #47
My precise reason for making this observation: She's doing exactly what they hate PO for. nt patrice May 2013 #65
Who is PO? Marr May 2013 #66
President Obama patrice May 2013 #67
Then I would say you're demonizing Benjamin for doing something you applaud Obama for. Marr May 2013 #69
Not so. I defend PO from demonizing by that same crowd. I do not "applaud" what I don't agree with, patrice May 2013 #70
I daresay many of us quakerboy May 2013 #82
Did you finally ask her of she supports RP's position on UN Assault Weapons ban? idwiyo May 2013 #72
I may just do that & sketch my activist "resume" on this issue to boot, in order to let patrice May 2013 #73
AND, P.S. - That's the very same thing that this same group condemns in PO. nt patrice May 2013 #80
Other: I am emphatically not a supporter of Medea Benjamin... Chan790 May 2013 #44
Amazing how much more effective her voice is than yours. nt LWolf May 2013 #48
That's presumptuous. Chan790 May 2013 #50
Sure I do. LWolf May 2013 #52
Medea Benjamin on gun control and assault weapons. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #56
I am not a supporter of people who support Rand Paul. I can't imagine why anyone would do business MADem May 2013 #57
Is she the character in the Tyler Perry movies? Floyd_Gondolli May 2013 #74
...want wars for profit and the killing of innocent people with drones to end forever and Zorra May 2013 #78
me too! patrice May 2013 #79
I love Obama. bravenak May 2013 #81
If money is the ONLY obstacle, how about he tells us how much he needs and asks us to donate? idwiyo May 2013 #83
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