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leftynyc

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62. Is that cretin killing Syrians?

Sun May 26, 2013, 01:28 PM

May 2013

Was she doing the killings when Iraq and Iran were at war? Accusing people of being right wing because you don't like what they're saying is the worst kind of argument and shows you can't back up what you believe using facts.

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"Condemnation isn't enough. Muslims must take ownership of the problem in their midst," [View all] snagglepuss May 2013 OP

so we need to get out of muslim lands yet we are expected to welcome them into ours? msongs May 2013 #1

Or to express it another way: HeiressofBickworth May 2013 #2

Christianity has come a long way in the last 800 years. badtoworse May 2013 #3

for at least the couple of centuries, we've got them beat in the killing civilians department yurbud May 2013 #8

Who's the "we" you're referring to? badtoworse May 2013 #10

Westerners, Europe & US, vaguely Judeo-Christian yurbud May 2013 #26

The violence to which you are referring is not being done in the name of Christianity. badtoworse May 2013 #34

Boy I didn't know Atheists were exempt from the draft seeing as how these are all Christian wars. dkf May 2013 #69

and we demand that every president give at least lip service to being Christian yurbud May 2013 #70

The Christian Identity movement belies that statement.. Luminous Animal May 2013 #15

This is all you could come with? badtoworse May 2013 #25

And even if we accept that equation fully it absolves neither faith of their responsibilities. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #4

I have many friends that are believers that are SQUEE May 2013 #6

when Muslims do speak out, do you expect Fox News to cover it or the MSM that is invested in war? yurbud May 2013 #9

Actually I do see reports, hence I did qualify "Many" SQUEE May 2013 #11

IOW, there really is a difference in the level of violence between the two religions. badtoworse May 2013 #13

no, in the differenceis the actions of some of the adherents, SQUEE May 2013 #14

Why don't you expand on that? I'm not sure what you mean. badtoworse May 2013 #16

That if you see either one as a violent, or NON violent religion.. SQUEE May 2013 #20

My frame of reference is the amount of actual violence done in the name of the religion badtoworse May 2013 #24

oh bull HiPointDem May 2013 #27

hmmm SQUEE May 2013 #46

See Post No. 3 badtoworse May 2013 #52

Weak reasoning. Quantess May 2013 #89

Sorry, but the Muslim silence on this is deafening. badtoworse May 2013 #12

And is always described as such, even when it's not there. Funny, that. (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #21

oh bull HiPointDem May 2013 #28

I'm grateful that it doesn't matter what you think. closeupready May 2013 #29

instead of just watching Fox News you could google "muslim cleric condemn terrorism" yurbud May 2013 #59

I tend to watch NBC for news and haven't seen much there in the way of Muslim condemnation of terror badtoworse May 2013 #92

Moral relativists are really entertaining. Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #18

+1 Libertas1776 May 2013 #22

Well, it would amuse you; you're not a liberal. closeupready May 2013 #31

And the wars of conquest are happening TODAY CrawlingChaos May 2013 #32

Is the killing being done leftynyc May 2013 #61

What is it done in the name of? nt CJCRANE May 2013 #71

oil, DUH. Quantess May 2013 #90

Uganda, Christians killing others daily n/t FreeState May 2013 #88

I agree we all need to take ownership of our extremists. hrmjustin May 2013 #79

these are mostly thugs who would have done horrible things regardless of their religion JI7 May 2013 #5

Ahh, mobile goalposts. (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #7

I think the UK murderers just moved the goalposts on their own MNBrewer May 2013 #19

Not that there hasn't always been some nativist violence against the muslim immigrants MNBrewer May 2013 #17

How about Westerners "take ownership" of the atrocities committed against Muslims? CrawlingChaos May 2013 #23

You are being intellectually dishonest badtoworse May 2013 #36

you do know that from 2005 back 35 years that Rise Rebel Resist May 2013 #37

Citation? badtoworse May 2013 #38

sure Rise Rebel Resist May 2013 #39

I'll look into this and respond. badtoworse May 2013 #43

by all means Rise Rebel Resist May 2013 #44

the hell I am CrawlingChaos May 2013 #40

Nearly all those atrocities are commited by muslims. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #41

I can't even imagine maintaining that level of delusion CrawlingChaos May 2013 #45

Are you nuts? Zoeisright May 2013 #65

Yes, actually, it mostly was. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #68

The Iraq war was fought for oil and money not God. hrmjustin May 2013 #83

Why not address the fact that more Muslims are being slaughtered by other Muslims snagglepuss May 2013 #48

Pamela Geller, is that you? CrawlingChaos May 2013 #49

Hardly. Why not address the issue of Muslims killing Muslims? snagglepuss May 2013 #50

I can just imagine where you're getting your "information" CrawlingChaos May 2013 #54

LOL Kufir is telling. How so? I have no issue acknowledging U.S. war crimes whereas snagglepuss May 2013 #57

Is that cretin killing Syrians? leftynyc May 2013 #62

If you have an invisible friend that tells you to kill people, it's a problem. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #30

So nothing is ever a byproduct of the endless wars, huh? CrawlingChaos May 2013 #33

Are you responding to something I've actually said? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #35

Some things are, most things aren't. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #42

History didn't begin on September 11, 2001. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #47

I have a better idea Apophis May 2013 #51

Yes and no respectively. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #60

Touché. Apophis May 2013 #86

I have to wonder janlyn May 2013 #53

The governments and other institutions of the Western world-especially the United States- YoungDemCA May 2013 #55

If Muslims need to own the issue LostOne4Ever May 2013 #56

Whataboutery is the ultimate inanity. Let's stay focused on the issue at hand. snagglepuss May 2013 #58

Its' the only argument they have leftynyc May 2013 #63

Yeah, right. Zoeisright May 2013 #64

But Fundie Christians blah blah Crusades blah blah Salem Witch Trials Nye Bevan May 2013 #66

Oh yeah? Well the US must take ownership of the problem of their god whatchamacallit May 2013 #67

A vast number of Americans not to mention millions worldwide snagglepuss May 2013 #73

Not sure how your response relates to my post whatchamacallit May 2013 #82

Where's the evidence that terror is born of death and destruction? The vicious violence snagglepuss May 2013 #85

What a load LittleBlue May 2013 #72

Well your post speaks volumes. You haven't even looked at the article. The piece is written snagglepuss May 2013 #74

Oh, it's an imam so that makes it okay LittleBlue May 2013 #75

You know nothing of the Guardian which is vilified for being Islamic apologists. snagglepuss May 2013 #78

Seems to be a pattern with her. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #81

Muslims aren't a race. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #76

I'll take "Myths about racism" LittleBlue May 2013 #77

Nice try again. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #80

That entire section of the world conflates religion with race and nationality. randome May 2013 #87

+1 snagglepuss May 2013 #91

I think Islam needs a reformation! hrmjustin May 2013 #84