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whatchamacallit

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82. Not sure how your response relates to my post

Sun May 26, 2013, 02:44 PM

May 2013

That said, speaking of defending the indefensible, if terror is fear born of death and destruction, we're the biggest terrorists around.

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"Condemnation isn't enough. Muslims must take ownership of the problem in their midst," [View all] snagglepuss May 2013 OP

so we need to get out of muslim lands yet we are expected to welcome them into ours? msongs May 2013 #1

Or to express it another way: HeiressofBickworth May 2013 #2

Christianity has come a long way in the last 800 years. badtoworse May 2013 #3

for at least the couple of centuries, we've got them beat in the killing civilians department yurbud May 2013 #8

Who's the "we" you're referring to? badtoworse May 2013 #10

Westerners, Europe & US, vaguely Judeo-Christian yurbud May 2013 #26

The violence to which you are referring is not being done in the name of Christianity. badtoworse May 2013 #34

Boy I didn't know Atheists were exempt from the draft seeing as how these are all Christian wars. dkf May 2013 #69

and we demand that every president give at least lip service to being Christian yurbud May 2013 #70

The Christian Identity movement belies that statement.. Luminous Animal May 2013 #15

This is all you could come with? badtoworse May 2013 #25

And even if we accept that equation fully it absolves neither faith of their responsibilities. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #4

I have many friends that are believers that are SQUEE May 2013 #6

when Muslims do speak out, do you expect Fox News to cover it or the MSM that is invested in war? yurbud May 2013 #9

Actually I do see reports, hence I did qualify "Many" SQUEE May 2013 #11

IOW, there really is a difference in the level of violence between the two religions. badtoworse May 2013 #13

no, in the differenceis the actions of some of the adherents, SQUEE May 2013 #14

Why don't you expand on that? I'm not sure what you mean. badtoworse May 2013 #16

That if you see either one as a violent, or NON violent religion.. SQUEE May 2013 #20

My frame of reference is the amount of actual violence done in the name of the religion badtoworse May 2013 #24

oh bull HiPointDem May 2013 #27

hmmm SQUEE May 2013 #46

See Post No. 3 badtoworse May 2013 #52

Weak reasoning. Quantess May 2013 #89

Sorry, but the Muslim silence on this is deafening. badtoworse May 2013 #12

And is always described as such, even when it's not there. Funny, that. (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #21

oh bull HiPointDem May 2013 #28

I'm grateful that it doesn't matter what you think. closeupready May 2013 #29

instead of just watching Fox News you could google "muslim cleric condemn terrorism" yurbud May 2013 #59

I tend to watch NBC for news and haven't seen much there in the way of Muslim condemnation of terror badtoworse May 2013 #92

Moral relativists are really entertaining. Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #18

+1 Libertas1776 May 2013 #22

Well, it would amuse you; you're not a liberal. closeupready May 2013 #31

And the wars of conquest are happening TODAY CrawlingChaos May 2013 #32

Is the killing being done leftynyc May 2013 #61

What is it done in the name of? nt CJCRANE May 2013 #71

oil, DUH. Quantess May 2013 #90

Uganda, Christians killing others daily n/t FreeState May 2013 #88

I agree we all need to take ownership of our extremists. hrmjustin May 2013 #79

these are mostly thugs who would have done horrible things regardless of their religion JI7 May 2013 #5

Ahh, mobile goalposts. (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #7

I think the UK murderers just moved the goalposts on their own MNBrewer May 2013 #19

Not that there hasn't always been some nativist violence against the muslim immigrants MNBrewer May 2013 #17

How about Westerners "take ownership" of the atrocities committed against Muslims? CrawlingChaos May 2013 #23

You are being intellectually dishonest badtoworse May 2013 #36

you do know that from 2005 back 35 years that Rise Rebel Resist May 2013 #37

Citation? badtoworse May 2013 #38

sure Rise Rebel Resist May 2013 #39

I'll look into this and respond. badtoworse May 2013 #43

by all means Rise Rebel Resist May 2013 #44

the hell I am CrawlingChaos May 2013 #40

Nearly all those atrocities are commited by muslims. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #41

I can't even imagine maintaining that level of delusion CrawlingChaos May 2013 #45

Are you nuts? Zoeisright May 2013 #65

Yes, actually, it mostly was. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #68

The Iraq war was fought for oil and money not God. hrmjustin May 2013 #83

Why not address the fact that more Muslims are being slaughtered by other Muslims snagglepuss May 2013 #48

Pamela Geller, is that you? CrawlingChaos May 2013 #49

Hardly. Why not address the issue of Muslims killing Muslims? snagglepuss May 2013 #50

I can just imagine where you're getting your "information" CrawlingChaos May 2013 #54

LOL Kufir is telling. How so? I have no issue acknowledging U.S. war crimes whereas snagglepuss May 2013 #57

Is that cretin killing Syrians? leftynyc May 2013 #62

If you have an invisible friend that tells you to kill people, it's a problem. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #30

So nothing is ever a byproduct of the endless wars, huh? CrawlingChaos May 2013 #33

Are you responding to something I've actually said? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #35

Some things are, most things aren't. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #42

History didn't begin on September 11, 2001. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #47

I have a better idea Apophis May 2013 #51

Yes and no respectively. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #60

Touché. Apophis May 2013 #86

I have to wonder janlyn May 2013 #53

The governments and other institutions of the Western world-especially the United States- YoungDemCA May 2013 #55

If Muslims need to own the issue LostOne4Ever May 2013 #56

Whataboutery is the ultimate inanity. Let's stay focused on the issue at hand. snagglepuss May 2013 #58

Its' the only argument they have leftynyc May 2013 #63

Yeah, right. Zoeisright May 2013 #64

But Fundie Christians blah blah Crusades blah blah Salem Witch Trials Nye Bevan May 2013 #66

Oh yeah? Well the US must take ownership of the problem of their god whatchamacallit May 2013 #67

A vast number of Americans not to mention millions worldwide snagglepuss May 2013 #73

Not sure how your response relates to my post whatchamacallit May 2013 #82

Where's the evidence that terror is born of death and destruction? The vicious violence snagglepuss May 2013 #85

What a load LittleBlue May 2013 #72

Well your post speaks volumes. You haven't even looked at the article. The piece is written snagglepuss May 2013 #74

Oh, it's an imam so that makes it okay LittleBlue May 2013 #75

You know nothing of the Guardian which is vilified for being Islamic apologists. snagglepuss May 2013 #78

Seems to be a pattern with her. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #81

Muslims aren't a race. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #76

I'll take "Myths about racism" LittleBlue May 2013 #77

Nice try again. ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #80

That entire section of the world conflates religion with race and nationality. randome May 2013 #87

+1 snagglepuss May 2013 #91

I think Islam needs a reformation! hrmjustin May 2013 #84