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Niceguy1

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86. first of all I'm not a gunner

Reply to Kingofalldems (Reply #70)

Mon May 27, 2013, 03:19 PM

May 2013

second, ok WS failed because they failed to connect with everyday Americans.

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Why would anybody who isn't a right-wing greedhead WANT OWS gone? [View all] Ken Burch May 2013 OP

Because OWS might discomfit you-know-who MotherPetrie May 2013 #1

call the white house and find out :-) nt msongs May 2013 #2

OWS is an energy sink that isn't set up to accomplish anything. dkf May 2013 #3

What do "leaders" ever do on the Left, other than to make the Left LESS Left? Ken Burch May 2013 #5

Who cares about labels like "left" and "right". Try showing us something that works. dkf May 2013 #7

Fine...models and proposals are needed Ken Burch May 2013 #89

I think you are a bit idealistic if you think individuals wouldn't rather win the lottery. dkf May 2013 #91

You're assuming that the ONLY way to have "an innovative and productive society" Ken Burch May 2013 #97

Well the Asians aren't going to stop what they are doing to become one common entity with you. dkf May 2013 #98

Problem is, your approach means it will be impossible Ken Burch May 2013 #99

So many right wing talking points in one comment. I think you should read some sabrina 1 May 2013 #9

Exciting time? For OWS? Really? dkf May 2013 #35

Very exciting. This weekend, all over the world. Most exciting is that it is probably the first sabrina 1 May 2013 #63

Do we really want to put all of the eggs into one basket?....... socialist_n_TN May 2013 #64

OWS is only a small part of the movement. It's time to choose sides. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #109

exactly this! well said, Sabrina! bettyellen May 2013 #83

Interestingly it's the right wing and corporatists that hate Occupy. They hate freedom. rhett o rick May 2013 #16

The comfortable left. zeemike May 2013 #31

It's the left that is fighting for change. It's the left that is fighting for single payer. rhett o rick May 2013 #58

Lets see the Mainstream democrats change the national discussion as quickly as OWS! BillyRibs May 2013 #24

+++ marions ghost May 2013 #60

they *are* doing 'civic projects". not that civic projects are anything but bandaids HiPointDem May 2013 #27

Our local occupiers just sit there with their eyesore tents. dkf May 2013 #37

where is that? HiPointDem May 2013 #38

It's their fault that they are perceived as the picture above... Pelican May 2013 #40

'pushed to the side' = suppressed by the obama admin in concert with local gov'ts. HiPointDem May 2013 #41

Ummm... That's kind of the point... Pelican May 2013 #54

sure they didn't. HiPointDem May 2013 #87

Honolulu...and we have great weather so they never left. Honestly it looks like a homeless set up. dkf May 2013 #43

You live in Hawaii? Can I come occupy your living room? It's cold in NY. Inkfreak May 2013 #55

Does not speak well of Honolulu. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #68

Visibility marions ghost May 2013 #59

Are you a member of the GOML party? L0oniX May 2013 #94

Thanks for posting about APEC and Occupy together. Searched on both and saw APEC was Occupied. suffragette Jun 2013 #117

There Is An Alternative - Go Watch And Read Richard Wolff cantbeserious May 2013 #49

Or read some Trotsky........ socialist_n_TN May 2013 #65

Trotsky essentially became a counter-revolutionary when he crushed the Krondstadt rebels in 1921 Ken Burch Jun 2013 #108

"At least they could have done civic projects. " Your disinformation campaign is pathetic... Scuba May 2013 #52

....too full of their lack of leadership .... MADem May 2013 #57

good analysis arely staircase May 2013 #77

They haven't accomplished anything and their lack of a heirachy makes it difficult craigmatic May 2013 #4

All hierarchs ever do is to say "we can't DO that". Ken Burch May 2013 #6

Why do we always feel this need for a hierarchy? It is not necessary to get anything done AllyCat May 2013 #22

What was the last big thing... Pelican May 2013 #42

It has to be a "big" thing to be something? AllyCat May 2013 #73

Better the highs and lows of success and failure... Pelican May 2013 #75

"They haven't accomplished anything" G_j May 2013 #30

tru e Niceguy1 May 2013 #34

You ought to pay more attention if you don't want to look like a fool magellan May 2013 #44

Theor? HangOnKids May 2013 #45

Well, a gunner doesn't like OWS Kingofalldems May 2013 #70

first of all I'm not a gunner Niceguy1 May 2013 #86

Blind or just poorly informed? Scuba May 2013 #53

What you smugly call 'nothing'- Occupy Medical What free universal health care looks like Bluenorthwest May 2013 #71

And yet they are making a difference. They arent the whole movement. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #110

How Quickly We Forget! moonbeam23 May 2013 #8

hear, hear. AllyCat May 2013 #23

ditto marions ghost May 2013 #61

+1 HiPointDem May 2013 #29

+1 Guess who's side the anti OWS crowd is on. Oh ...no guess work required. L0oniX May 2013 #79

some people always seem to assume a "want" hfojvt May 2013 #10

I am glad that OWS stepped up, but there was a huge lack of focus! Dustlawyer May 2013 #11

See-there's one right here on your thread... catnhatnh May 2013 #12

That's a great thread about Ben's Occupy work pinboy3niner May 2013 #20

Thanks Pinboy... catnhatnh May 2013 #32

How soon we forget.... ReRe May 2013 #25

Because they kind of make the hometeam look bad. Marr May 2013 #13

Lets see... Pelican May 2013 #14

Gee Pelican HangOnKids May 2013 #46

The "respectable" don't make change anymore. Ken Burch Jun 2013 #106

OWS is anti-hierarchical and doesn't believe the system can be reformed starroute May 2013 #15

We need to elect people who represent OWS and stop electing people who only represent greed. Initech May 2013 #17

Seeing as the physical manifestation of Occupy was vagrant encampments with wifi... Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2013 #18

Funny that you saw the wifi as self-indulgent... catnhatnh May 2013 #33

I don't think it was self-indulgent, it is just that in the absense of a drum circle... Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2013 #36

Charlatans and drum circle HangOnKids May 2013 #47

What you smugly call 'nothing'- Occupy Medical What free universal health care looks like Bluenorthwest May 2013 #72

Before they came along, opposition to the Right had pretty much died out. Ken Burch May 2013 #100

And you define "the right" to be what exactly? Sen. Walter Sobchak May 2013 #103

Chill, Senator. I wasn't saying Obama was PART of the Right. Ken Burch Jun 2013 #105

Why don't they all just take a bath, cut their hair and get a job, right? n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #51

I think that is pretty offensive Marrah_G May 2013 #66

So you agree with the conservatives? Time to choose sides. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #111

So it is a binary decision? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2013 #118

Your display of brotherly love, of the equality and equal rights for all mankind, is noted. n/t Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author Raine May 2013 #19

In Oakland, they are called the Lake Merritt/Uptown District Association. Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #21

It threatened political as usual. And it wasn't controlled by the Democratic Party. Comrade Grumpy May 2013 #26

Contrary to the views of a FEW here on DU... ReRe May 2013 #28

Me too. But I think that there are more than a few business suit Dems here. byeya May 2013 #78

Yeah... ReRe May 2013 #81

I've learned more in a bi-weekly Occupy reading group Ron Green May 2013 #39

can i ask what area of the country you're in? HiPointDem May 2013 #48

Western Oregon. Ron Green May 2013 #69

thanks. HiPointDem May 2013 #85

Salem, maybe? Portland or Eugene? Ken Burch May 2013 #102

Between Salem and Eugene. Ron Green Jun 2013 #104

Reading this thread is like a trip in the way-back machine and hearing "dirty fucking hippies" Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #50

It's also like the Democratic Party "pros" who STILL hate the Left Ken Burch May 2013 #90

Words matter. So do names. 'Occupy Wall Street' is a meaningless name. randome May 2013 #56

"Occupy" is fine marions ghost May 2013 #62

Your determination to find something, anything to use to disparage OWS is admirable. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #113

i didn't know they were still around arely staircase May 2013 #67

Absolutely. And so is the 470X income inequality chasm which "our" politicians will not even mention Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #114

All of the message it is capable of has already been received. gulliver May 2013 #74

I don't want it gone, but people MUST stop idolizing it; that's BAD for OWS and it isn't the patrice May 2013 #76

OK, don't idolize it...but don't disown it either. Ken Burch May 2013 #101

OWS tends to piss off the assholes. n/t L0oniX May 2013 #80

It really pisses off the far Right and The Third Way, which is probably the same thing. sabrina 1 May 2013 #92

I believe the main reason the occupy movement is leaderless... Blanks May 2013 #82

Because they are "centrist" greedheads... 99Forever May 2013 #84

Intimidation by police felix_numinous May 2013 #88

It's pretty easy to spot people with a vested interest against OWS. They are invested in WS. nt raouldukelives May 2013 #93

Yep. Earth_First Jun 2013 #107

I admire OWS for a lot of the charitable work they've done... Pragdem May 2013 #95

So you are a pragmatic Democrat? Does that mean that you dont like poverty but you will accept it? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #112

Kick. Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #96

OWS was/is a major threat to the annointed "Liberal" leadership as well...... marmar Jun 2013 #116