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17. I watched her wrongness regarding Bioshock Infinite

Wed May 29, 2013, 05:09 PM

May 2013

and laughed, puked, and dismissed her, in that order.

"What there is, is a call for the industry to grow beyond it's infancy and start delivering games with adult stories for everyone."

Bioshock Infinite did that- it's quite possibly the most adult-oriented story I have ever seen and easily the best video game ever made- and she castigated that one. Thankfully, everything I saw in response was laughing at her rank incompetence and utter ignorance of the topic.

This woman doesn't speak truth. She has nothing useful to say and should be banned from YouTube. She intentionally misrepresents products, people, and positions (like the host and loudest speakers of HoF do with, well, every last thing) and she is always wrong in general and always wrong in detail.

It's not that I disagree with her. She is simply, and very obviously, wrong. Provably so.

This woman is a liar.

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Feminist analysis of video game tropes booted off YouTube within hours (later restored) [View all] Ohio Joe May 2013 OP

Bookmarking for later. Orrex May 2013 #1

My daughter started watching this series last week clyrc May 2013 #2

One of her 83,500+ subscribers for about 3 years now. K&R Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #3

As she acknowledges, violence is the play mechanism by which problems are solved. Ron Green May 2013 #4

She does Chathamization May 2013 #5

i think the point is that video games with violence and sex sells loli phabay May 2013 #7

Well, (1) the market is much bigger than 15 year old boys, so it very geek tragedy May 2013 #8

15-year-old boys generally DO think like this, and that's not likely to change. Ron Green May 2013 #14

Which is, of course, bullshit. Occulus May 2013 #11

Are you serious? alp227 May 2013 #21

Does anybody who posts something you disagree with deserve to be blocked from YouTube el_bryanto May 2013 #35

lol! Whatsamatta, somebody stole your sweet roll? Whisp May 2013 #37

He took an arrow to the knee. Rex May 2013 #67

Lol. Union Scribe May 2013 #166

Hahaha. Apophis May 2013 #73

No, she's just plain wrong. Occulus May 2013 #87

o my. Whisp May 2013 #90

Rage? No. That's called "projection". Occulus May 2013 #96

all your baseless attacks are belong to you. n/t Whisp May 2013 #97

"Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. Occulus May 2013 #99

It's a good thread. Whisp May 2013 #103

Personal attacks make it a little worse, though. Occulus May 2013 #105

I realize the convenience of holding others to a higher standard than to that we hold ourselves to. LanternWaste May 2013 #116

Because the woman in the OP is participating in this thread and personally read and responded Occulus May 2013 #118

I agree with you about games Downtown Hound May 2013 #125

I flagged her because she is disingenuous, dishonest, manipulative, and is using those things to Occulus May 2013 #127

"I have every right to silence manipulative liars" Downtown Hound May 2013 #128

I am in no way curtailing her right to free speech Occulus May 2013 #129

You tried to get her banned from youtube because you disagreed with her premise Downtown Hound May 2013 #131

Which part of YouTube being a ptivate entity, with opiate69 May 2013 #133

What part of youtube let her video back on because it didn't violate Downtown Hound May 2013 #134

unlike DU, YouTube doesn`t seem to have alert limits.. opiate69 May 2013 #136

I never said he wasn't free to do it. Unlike him, I respect free speech Downtown Hound May 2013 #138

That's really rather condescending and insulting Occulus May 2013 #141

Have you actually read any of your own posts? Downtown Hound May 2013 #142

You are reading what you want to read and making freedom of speech into something it is not. Occulus May 2013 #145

Teach me wise one. Fill me with your wisdom. Downtown Hound May 2013 #146

Wow. Occulus May 2013 #152

That ranks as one of the lamest responses I've read during my nine years on DU Downtown Hound May 2013 #155

Correct me if I'm wrong but, aren't these YOUR words? Le Taz Hot May 2013 #160

Flagging a comment as inappropriate for being manipulative and disingenuous, as well as dishonest, Occulus May 2013 #137

DU is a site for liberals Downtown Hound May 2013 #139

I didn't try to ban her because of her opinion, thanks Occulus May 2013 #143

! opiate69 May 2013 #147

Congratulations Occulus. You found yo'self a friend. Downtown Hound May 2013 #149

Who is this all you're talking about? Downtown Hound May 2013 #148

Actually, you did try and ban her for her opinion Downtown Hound May 2013 #150

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #158

Just from the way this thread is going ... ananda May 2013 #151

Except I'm not "ranting". I was very clear in my other posts on this thread Occulus May 2013 #153

Have to say after watching her video, I agree with you. Very one-sided presentation. Katashi_itto May 2013 #178

Yes I would bet most gamers are over 30 Jasana May 2013 #165

The target market is not 15 year old boys. Rex May 2013 #66

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #6

She is wrong in general and wrong in detail Occulus May 2013 #9

Not to mention The Sims, Braid, Scribblenauts SomethingFishy May 2013 #12

You should watch the video Ohio Joe May 2013 #13

I watched her wrongness regarding Bioshock Infinite Occulus May 2013 #17

I'm not finding that... Ohio Joe May 2013 #20

Wow! You actually 'puked'? Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #25

"Should be banned from YouTube." OFFS. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #29

Seriously? Bioshock Infinite? Chathamization May 2013 #30

Infinite raised the bar beyond anything I'd expected Occulus May 2013 #92

Lara Croft? Bayonetta? Chathamization May 2013 #100

The two I mentioned were female characters selected to BE female characters Occulus May 2013 #104

So you're saying Chathamization May 2013 #106

SPOILERS! No, I'm saying she's a strong female character because she's a strong female character. Occulus May 2013 #108

Wat. Chathamization May 2013 #124

You did nail me on that; for some reason I thought the two were the same Occulus May 2013 #154

Man, I'm sorry someone said something mean about your waifu on the internet. nt Romulus Quirinus May 2013 #173

I watched it and couldn't help but think she was trying to condemn all games joeglow3 May 2013 #19

So, when she says, less than a minute in, that it is both possible, and even necessary, redqueen May 2013 #22

No, it is someone in search of a problem joeglow3 May 2013 #26

We could talk about any number of unrealistic portrayals. redqueen May 2013 #32

No. The issue is if it is an issue joeglow3 May 2013 #61

You don't think it's a problem. Good for you. There are plenty of discussions here that I don't redqueen May 2013 #63

And I bet you argue against nonissues the right tries to make an issue joeglow3 May 2013 #79

So the feminist issues you disagree with are analogous to the nonissues rightwingers manufacture? redqueen May 2013 #80

Made up feminist issues - yes joeglow3 May 2013 #110

The reaction to this woman's Le Taz Hot May 2013 #163

Yep. She got the rape and death threats, the online game where users beat her, etc... redqueen May 2013 #170

That was the impression I got from it Occulus May 2013 #102

I'm no getting the hostility... Ohio Joe May 2013 #15

Really? redqueen May 2013 #16

If she was a gamer she wouldn't have intentionally misrepresented Bioshock Infinite Occulus May 2013 #18

You got it Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #28

She is discussing a specific topic. redqueen May 2013 #33

They won't understand. ismnotwasm May 2013 #85

Oh, they know. They just don't care. redqueen May 2013 #91

Ignorance is your strong suit intaglio May 2013 #159

Doesn't surprise me... Blue_Tires May 2013 #10

I agree with this analogy regarding the recent backlash against many feminist issues. redqueen May 2013 #24

You said it: Whisp May 2013 #40

It's not even a topic that most gaming forums can have a legit discussion about... Blue_Tires May 2013 #45

Homophobic slurs, sexist ones, racist - the whole mix Whisp May 2013 #47

My one positive thought is that MOST of them Blue_Tires May 2013 #48

and people paid for this video series quinnox May 2013 #23

Square-Enix and other Japanese RPG makers have some of the best and endearing Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #27

No Hayabusa May 2013 #31

Is the girlfriend's death/mutation focused on more than the others? redqueen May 2013 #34

I think that is the wrong question... Ohio Joe May 2013 #38

Yes, I agree. redqueen May 2013 #43

Kind of Hayabusa May 2013 #44

What's most interesting is the vehemence of those who disagree with her el_bryanto May 2013 #36

People don't like to be lectured on how they entertain themselves. nt Pragdem May 2013 #39

Some may interprate it as a lecture... Ohio Joe May 2013 #41

Thank you for posting this Ohio Joe. Starry Messenger May 2013 #42

Never heard of her blog before. Lunacee_2013 May 2013 #46

The fact of the matter is this unreadierLizard May 2013 #49

And ultimately, what exactly makes her somebody anyone should bother listening to? opiate69 May 2013 #51

you have to have lived in a bubble Whisp May 2013 #52

I have no problem with differing opinions, opiate69 May 2013 #58

time for caveman days to be over, no? Whisp May 2013 #68

Right... because there are no enduring, negative male archetypes in lit or mythology.... opiate69 May 2013 #70

of course, but how do those stories affect present day males? Whisp May 2013 #71

That's just absurd. opiate69 May 2013 #84

Notice how she's disabled all feeback in the video LittleBlue May 2013 #76

Probably because she was getting death and rape threats. nt DLevine May 2013 #78

Exactly. You'd be surprised how often misogynist comments get lots of likes on YouTube. redqueen May 2013 #82

Forced her to disable ratings too, eh? LittleBlue May 2013 #83

No, she merely did that to upset you. nt DLevine May 2013 #86

Concession accepted nt. LittleBlue May 2013 #88

Of course she did. Feminist issues are notoriously unpopular to begin with, redqueen May 2013 #89

I think the vast majority of viewers will be gamers LittleBlue May 2013 #93

Tne same gamers who flooded her with rape and death threats, photoshopped her face onto brutal porn redqueen May 2013 #98

Are rape and death threats 'feedback' ismnotwasm May 2013 #107

I think he specifically means lists of games that don't feature this trope, redqueen May 2013 #109

I find the whole topic to be interesting ismnotwasm May 2013 #113

The same thing happens every time women start drawing attention to problematic aspects redqueen May 2013 #115

That was my thought ismnotwasm May 2013 #117

:D Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #81

"The fact of the matter is this" Ohio Joe May 2013 #53

"Why deny a fact?" redqueen May 2013 #55

Original had Tandi Hayabusa May 2013 #72

I'm a female gamer justiceischeap May 2013 #167

I am female and have been gaming online for 15 years Marrah_G May 2013 #171

This women has milked more money from idiots than you can imagine.... snooper2 May 2013 #50

Got a link to that video? nt redqueen May 2013 #54

oh she took it down, along with blocking comments she did months back snooper2 May 2013 #56

Her dedicated team of obsessed haters didn't get a screenshot? redqueen May 2013 #57

I'll try to find one for you later LOL... snooper2 May 2013 #59

Any relation to Amy's Baking Company's online haters?? opiate69 May 2013 #60

Nope. Amy didn't receive rape and death threats or have her face photoshopped onto brutal porn pics. redqueen May 2013 #62

Do you like Mystery Science Theater? snooper2 May 2013 #64

Admittedly, not my best stab at humor.. but hey.. even Bill Hicks had an off-gig now and then... opiate69 May 2013 #65

LOL, Hicks was an overrated hack. redqueen May 2013 #77

Spoken like a Judy Tenuta fan. lmao... opiate69 May 2013 #94

"Why do you like young girls Goat Boy?" redqueen May 2013 #101

Ahhh... absolutists are sooo .... predictable. opiate69 May 2013 #112

His "joke" about Jimi raping those two pop stars, Debbie Gibson and someone else... redqueen May 2013 #114

Yeah... it was.. in the larger scheme of things.. opiate69 May 2013 #132

She did WHAT? Occulus May 2013 #111

That's ok ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #123

Evidence, or are you just another hater? intaglio May 2013 #161

Ugh. I feel like I turned over a rock and all these creepy crawly biting things spewed out. hunter May 2013 #69

And not just in the video, n/t intaglio May 2013 #162

Video games are about money. Developers make what they can sell. LittleBlue May 2013 #74

Yawn. Apophis May 2013 #75

DU should have PVP. Whisp May 2013 #95

Well shit.. I'm gonna roll a paladin then... opiate69 May 2013 #119

I prefer ranged attacks. Whisp May 2013 #120

That's why I loved my Shadow Priest ... opiate69 May 2013 #121

I am a gamer and I am bothered by the sexism in the industry Bjorn Against May 2013 #122

:nods DonCoquixote May 2013 #140

Not buying. I can name many prominent, strong females in games past and present. Akoto May 2013 #126

Female City Elf Warden Hayabusa May 2013 #169

I did see the video, but saw her kickstarter. Separation May 2013 #130

This research doesn't seem original Bad Thoughts May 2013 #135

Seems like the type who likes to play the victim... Pelican May 2013 #144

What facts? Ohio Joe May 2013 #172

As a 30 year old with almost 500 games on Steam and a long history of gaming, I agree with her TekGryphon May 2013 #156

Furthermore, regarding the treatment of Anita... TekGryphon May 2013 #157

Can I just say . . . Le Taz Hot May 2013 #164

I remember seeing a reply video LostOne4Ever May 2013 #168

The number of presumably grown men losing their shit Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #174

This thread certainly demonstrates and strengthens her argument. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #175

Yup. I invoke Lewis' Law on this thread for sure. KitSileya May 2013 #176

That's a good one, I'll be using it in future. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #177

She does have a point. bobclark86 May 2013 #179