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redqueen

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109. I think he specifically means lists of games that don't feature this trope,

Thu May 30, 2013, 05:24 PM

May 2013

as if she hasn't already said that she's aware they exist.

As if she hadn't specifically pointed out that this is a big picture, systemic analysis.

Seems to be popular, the whole 'ignoring what she's actually saying' thing.

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Feminist analysis of video game tropes booted off YouTube within hours (later restored) [View all] Ohio Joe May 2013 OP

Bookmarking for later. Orrex May 2013 #1

My daughter started watching this series last week clyrc May 2013 #2

One of her 83,500+ subscribers for about 3 years now. K&R Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #3

As she acknowledges, violence is the play mechanism by which problems are solved. Ron Green May 2013 #4

She does Chathamization May 2013 #5

i think the point is that video games with violence and sex sells loli phabay May 2013 #7

Well, (1) the market is much bigger than 15 year old boys, so it very geek tragedy May 2013 #8

15-year-old boys generally DO think like this, and that's not likely to change. Ron Green May 2013 #14

Which is, of course, bullshit. Occulus May 2013 #11

Are you serious? alp227 May 2013 #21

Does anybody who posts something you disagree with deserve to be blocked from YouTube el_bryanto May 2013 #35

lol! Whatsamatta, somebody stole your sweet roll? Whisp May 2013 #37

He took an arrow to the knee. Rex May 2013 #67

Lol. Union Scribe May 2013 #166

Hahaha. Apophis May 2013 #73

No, she's just plain wrong. Occulus May 2013 #87

o my. Whisp May 2013 #90

Rage? No. That's called "projection". Occulus May 2013 #96

all your baseless attacks are belong to you. n/t Whisp May 2013 #97

"Well done. Here are the test results: You are a horrible person. Occulus May 2013 #99

It's a good thread. Whisp May 2013 #103

Personal attacks make it a little worse, though. Occulus May 2013 #105

I realize the convenience of holding others to a higher standard than to that we hold ourselves to. LanternWaste May 2013 #116

Because the woman in the OP is participating in this thread and personally read and responded Occulus May 2013 #118

I agree with you about games Downtown Hound May 2013 #125

I flagged her because she is disingenuous, dishonest, manipulative, and is using those things to Occulus May 2013 #127

"I have every right to silence manipulative liars" Downtown Hound May 2013 #128

I am in no way curtailing her right to free speech Occulus May 2013 #129

You tried to get her banned from youtube because you disagreed with her premise Downtown Hound May 2013 #131

Which part of YouTube being a ptivate entity, with opiate69 May 2013 #133

What part of youtube let her video back on because it didn't violate Downtown Hound May 2013 #134

unlike DU, YouTube doesn`t seem to have alert limits.. opiate69 May 2013 #136

I never said he wasn't free to do it. Unlike him, I respect free speech Downtown Hound May 2013 #138

That's really rather condescending and insulting Occulus May 2013 #141

Have you actually read any of your own posts? Downtown Hound May 2013 #142

You are reading what you want to read and making freedom of speech into something it is not. Occulus May 2013 #145

Teach me wise one. Fill me with your wisdom. Downtown Hound May 2013 #146

Wow. Occulus May 2013 #152

That ranks as one of the lamest responses I've read during my nine years on DU Downtown Hound May 2013 #155

Correct me if I'm wrong but, aren't these YOUR words? Le Taz Hot May 2013 #160

Flagging a comment as inappropriate for being manipulative and disingenuous, as well as dishonest, Occulus May 2013 #137

DU is a site for liberals Downtown Hound May 2013 #139

I didn't try to ban her because of her opinion, thanks Occulus May 2013 #143

! opiate69 May 2013 #147

Congratulations Occulus. You found yo'self a friend. Downtown Hound May 2013 #149

Who is this all you're talking about? Downtown Hound May 2013 #148

Actually, you did try and ban her for her opinion Downtown Hound May 2013 #150

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #158

Just from the way this thread is going ... ananda May 2013 #151

Except I'm not "ranting". I was very clear in my other posts on this thread Occulus May 2013 #153

Have to say after watching her video, I agree with you. Very one-sided presentation. Katashi_itto May 2013 #178

Yes I would bet most gamers are over 30 Jasana May 2013 #165

The target market is not 15 year old boys. Rex May 2013 #66

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #6

She is wrong in general and wrong in detail Occulus May 2013 #9

Not to mention The Sims, Braid, Scribblenauts SomethingFishy May 2013 #12

You should watch the video Ohio Joe May 2013 #13

I watched her wrongness regarding Bioshock Infinite Occulus May 2013 #17

I'm not finding that... Ohio Joe May 2013 #20

Wow! You actually 'puked'? Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #25

"Should be banned from YouTube." OFFS. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #29

Seriously? Bioshock Infinite? Chathamization May 2013 #30

Infinite raised the bar beyond anything I'd expected Occulus May 2013 #92

Lara Croft? Bayonetta? Chathamization May 2013 #100

The two I mentioned were female characters selected to BE female characters Occulus May 2013 #104

So you're saying Chathamization May 2013 #106

SPOILERS! No, I'm saying she's a strong female character because she's a strong female character. Occulus May 2013 #108

Wat. Chathamization May 2013 #124

You did nail me on that; for some reason I thought the two were the same Occulus May 2013 #154

Man, I'm sorry someone said something mean about your waifu on the internet. nt Romulus Quirinus May 2013 #173

I watched it and couldn't help but think she was trying to condemn all games joeglow3 May 2013 #19

So, when she says, less than a minute in, that it is both possible, and even necessary, redqueen May 2013 #22

No, it is someone in search of a problem joeglow3 May 2013 #26

We could talk about any number of unrealistic portrayals. redqueen May 2013 #32

No. The issue is if it is an issue joeglow3 May 2013 #61

You don't think it's a problem. Good for you. There are plenty of discussions here that I don't redqueen May 2013 #63

And I bet you argue against nonissues the right tries to make an issue joeglow3 May 2013 #79

So the feminist issues you disagree with are analogous to the nonissues rightwingers manufacture? redqueen May 2013 #80

Made up feminist issues - yes joeglow3 May 2013 #110

The reaction to this woman's Le Taz Hot May 2013 #163

Yep. She got the rape and death threats, the online game where users beat her, etc... redqueen May 2013 #170

That was the impression I got from it Occulus May 2013 #102

I'm no getting the hostility... Ohio Joe May 2013 #15

Really? redqueen May 2013 #16

If she was a gamer she wouldn't have intentionally misrepresented Bioshock Infinite Occulus May 2013 #18

You got it Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #28

She is discussing a specific topic. redqueen May 2013 #33

They won't understand. ismnotwasm May 2013 #85

Oh, they know. They just don't care. redqueen May 2013 #91

Ignorance is your strong suit intaglio May 2013 #159

Doesn't surprise me... Blue_Tires May 2013 #10

I agree with this analogy regarding the recent backlash against many feminist issues. redqueen May 2013 #24

You said it: Whisp May 2013 #40

It's not even a topic that most gaming forums can have a legit discussion about... Blue_Tires May 2013 #45

Homophobic slurs, sexist ones, racist - the whole mix Whisp May 2013 #47

My one positive thought is that MOST of them Blue_Tires May 2013 #48

and people paid for this video series quinnox May 2013 #23

Square-Enix and other Japanese RPG makers have some of the best and endearing Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #27

No Hayabusa May 2013 #31

Is the girlfriend's death/mutation focused on more than the others? redqueen May 2013 #34

I think that is the wrong question... Ohio Joe May 2013 #38

Yes, I agree. redqueen May 2013 #43

Kind of Hayabusa May 2013 #44

What's most interesting is the vehemence of those who disagree with her el_bryanto May 2013 #36

People don't like to be lectured on how they entertain themselves. nt Pragdem May 2013 #39

Some may interprate it as a lecture... Ohio Joe May 2013 #41

Thank you for posting this Ohio Joe. Starry Messenger May 2013 #42

Never heard of her blog before. Lunacee_2013 May 2013 #46

The fact of the matter is this unreadierLizard May 2013 #49

And ultimately, what exactly makes her somebody anyone should bother listening to? opiate69 May 2013 #51

you have to have lived in a bubble Whisp May 2013 #52

I have no problem with differing opinions, opiate69 May 2013 #58

time for caveman days to be over, no? Whisp May 2013 #68

Right... because there are no enduring, negative male archetypes in lit or mythology.... opiate69 May 2013 #70

of course, but how do those stories affect present day males? Whisp May 2013 #71

That's just absurd. opiate69 May 2013 #84

Notice how she's disabled all feeback in the video LittleBlue May 2013 #76

Probably because she was getting death and rape threats. nt DLevine May 2013 #78

Exactly. You'd be surprised how often misogynist comments get lots of likes on YouTube. redqueen May 2013 #82

Forced her to disable ratings too, eh? LittleBlue May 2013 #83

No, she merely did that to upset you. nt DLevine May 2013 #86

Concession accepted nt. LittleBlue May 2013 #88

Of course she did. Feminist issues are notoriously unpopular to begin with, redqueen May 2013 #89

I think the vast majority of viewers will be gamers LittleBlue May 2013 #93

Tne same gamers who flooded her with rape and death threats, photoshopped her face onto brutal porn redqueen May 2013 #98

Are rape and death threats 'feedback' ismnotwasm May 2013 #107

I think he specifically means lists of games that don't feature this trope, redqueen May 2013 #109

I find the whole topic to be interesting ismnotwasm May 2013 #113

The same thing happens every time women start drawing attention to problematic aspects redqueen May 2013 #115

That was my thought ismnotwasm May 2013 #117

:D Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #81

"The fact of the matter is this" Ohio Joe May 2013 #53

"Why deny a fact?" redqueen May 2013 #55

Original had Tandi Hayabusa May 2013 #72

I'm a female gamer justiceischeap May 2013 #167

I am female and have been gaming online for 15 years Marrah_G May 2013 #171

This women has milked more money from idiots than you can imagine.... snooper2 May 2013 #50

Got a link to that video? nt redqueen May 2013 #54

oh she took it down, along with blocking comments she did months back snooper2 May 2013 #56

Her dedicated team of obsessed haters didn't get a screenshot? redqueen May 2013 #57

I'll try to find one for you later LOL... snooper2 May 2013 #59

Any relation to Amy's Baking Company's online haters?? opiate69 May 2013 #60

Nope. Amy didn't receive rape and death threats or have her face photoshopped onto brutal porn pics. redqueen May 2013 #62

Do you like Mystery Science Theater? snooper2 May 2013 #64

Admittedly, not my best stab at humor.. but hey.. even Bill Hicks had an off-gig now and then... opiate69 May 2013 #65

LOL, Hicks was an overrated hack. redqueen May 2013 #77

Spoken like a Judy Tenuta fan. lmao... opiate69 May 2013 #94

"Why do you like young girls Goat Boy?" redqueen May 2013 #101

Ahhh... absolutists are sooo .... predictable. opiate69 May 2013 #112

His "joke" about Jimi raping those two pop stars, Debbie Gibson and someone else... redqueen May 2013 #114

Yeah... it was.. in the larger scheme of things.. opiate69 May 2013 #132

She did WHAT? Occulus May 2013 #111

That's ok ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #123

Evidence, or are you just another hater? intaglio May 2013 #161

Ugh. I feel like I turned over a rock and all these creepy crawly biting things spewed out. hunter May 2013 #69

And not just in the video, n/t intaglio May 2013 #162

Video games are about money. Developers make what they can sell. LittleBlue May 2013 #74

Yawn. Apophis May 2013 #75

DU should have PVP. Whisp May 2013 #95

Well shit.. I'm gonna roll a paladin then... opiate69 May 2013 #119

I prefer ranged attacks. Whisp May 2013 #120

That's why I loved my Shadow Priest ... opiate69 May 2013 #121

I am a gamer and I am bothered by the sexism in the industry Bjorn Against May 2013 #122

:nods DonCoquixote May 2013 #140

Not buying. I can name many prominent, strong females in games past and present. Akoto May 2013 #126

Female City Elf Warden Hayabusa May 2013 #169

I did see the video, but saw her kickstarter. Separation May 2013 #130

This research doesn't seem original Bad Thoughts May 2013 #135

Seems like the type who likes to play the victim... Pelican May 2013 #144

What facts? Ohio Joe May 2013 #172

As a 30 year old with almost 500 games on Steam and a long history of gaming, I agree with her TekGryphon May 2013 #156

Furthermore, regarding the treatment of Anita... TekGryphon May 2013 #157

Can I just say . . . Le Taz Hot May 2013 #164

I remember seeing a reply video LostOne4Ever May 2013 #168

The number of presumably grown men losing their shit Sheldon Cooper May 2013 #174

This thread certainly demonstrates and strengthens her argument. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #175

Yup. I invoke Lewis' Law on this thread for sure. KitSileya May 2013 #176

That's a good one, I'll be using it in future. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #177

She does have a point. bobclark86 May 2013 #179