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hack89

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27. Are you really that lacking in imagination

Fri May 31, 2013, 09:50 PM

May 2013

that you can't consider a way to reduce suicide that doesn't revolve around gun control? What is wrong with a real health care system such that the problem is fixed well before someone reaches for a gun? But that doesn't fit your agenda, does it?

What you really want is registration so that a doctor can take away a patient's gun without due process. I stand with the ACLU on this issue - they oppose it.

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Gun Deaths Since Newtown Now Surpass Number of Americans Killed in Iraq [View all] BainsBane May 2013 OP

kick and rec intaglio May 2013 #1

Not so far BainsBane May 2013 #3

But mental illness, outlaws with guns, 2nd amendment Progressive dog May 2013 #2

You forgot to talk about billh58 May 2013 #11

Link? Dragonbreathp9d May 2013 #4

Sorry about that BainsBane May 2013 #5

No worries thanks! Dragonbreathp9d May 2013 #6

Guns Don't Kill People ... napkinz May 2013 #7

That says something, doesn't it. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #8

It says we have a war on American soil BainsBane May 2013 #9

This data would be good- with links- for the GCRA group, in a pinned thread, too. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #10

I cross posted this OP there BainsBane May 2013 #12

I remember the widget for Iraq War Deaths. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #15

How? Single payer health care with mental health coverage hack89 May 2013 #13

Already covered BainsBane May 2013 #14

Toss in universal background checks, magazine size limits, crackdown on illegal gun trafficking, hack89 May 2013 #16

yes, and background checks would help tremendously BainsBane May 2013 #17

Background checks are irrelevent to sucides. hack89 May 2013 #18

You are not thinking it through BainsBane May 2013 #19

There is no permenent record of a background check hack89 May 2013 #20

There is no permanent record because the gun lobby BainsBane May 2013 #22

+1 (nt) Paladin May 2013 #23

+100 billh58 May 2013 #25

Are you really that lacking in imagination hack89 May 2013 #27

hardly BainsBane May 2013 #29

66% percent of gun deaths are suicides. If it is not a mental health problem hack89 May 2013 #32

What exactly are you imagining on this check? Pelican May 2013 #30

If someone is adjudicated a danger to themselves or others BainsBane May 2013 #31

Mental illness (suicidal depression mostly) make up the vast chunk of gun related deaths... Pelican May 2013 #35

As it stands, even those who have been legally adjudicated dangerous BainsBane Jun 2013 #36

I can't think of a system... Pelican Jun 2013 #37

Well, that's why we have so many dead BainsBane Jun 2013 #42

Mental health and criminal background checks are available to anyone? Pelican Jun 2013 #46

kick napkinz May 2013 #21

I literally have no earthly idea what it will take to finally pass decent gun control dsc May 2013 #24

The latest NRA/Gungeon billh58 May 2013 #26

Worse yet, they've been raffling off the type of gun used at Sandy Hook. CBHagman May 2013 #33

The AR-15 is a hugely popular rifle krispos42 Jun 2013 #40

Ah, we have arrived at the multiple Rings of Logical Fallacy Hell. CBHagman Jun 2013 #53

The AR-15 is the quintessential assault weapon. It was not done in poor taste. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #43

This is just too damned sad. RGinNJ May 2013 #28

I posted the same sad fact in DU on Tuesday ... DreamGypsy May 2013 #34

And the number of non-gun murders since Newtown... krispos42 Jun 2013 #38

It's only useless BainsBane Jun 2013 #39

So then can I count on you to not stop until the US homicide rate is zero? krispos42 Jun 2013 #41

Gun deaths are senseless BainsBane Jun 2013 #44

Is your goal to save the most lives possible? krispos42 Jun 2013 #48

Believe it or not legalizing pot and regulating guns are not mutually exclusive Progressive dog Jun 2013 #50

Then which should be done first? krispos42 Jun 2013 #54

Some can walk and chew gum Progressive dog Jun 2013 #55

Excellent... Pelican Jun 2013 #47

Add at least 1500 deaths of contractors in Iraq = about 6000 dead doing things the US military HiPointDem Jun 2013 #45

kick napkinz Jun 2013 #49

we fight em here so we don't have to fight em over there... lame54 Jun 2013 #51

But it's our goddam motherfucking constitutional right, goddamit! Iggo Jun 2013 #52