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haele

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114. Government only pays per-deim - maybe up to $300/$350 a night. Employee pays the rest.

Mon Jun 3, 2013, 03:51 PM

Jun 2013

The government won't pay that much for a suite unless 1) that was the only room available within 50 miles - I've seen them try to put a 2-star (Admiral) up at a Red-Roof Inn in Baltimore instead of putting out $700 a night in DC for a last-minute attendance requirement at a high-level conference during "the season" (end of fiscal year) (he ended up at the Barracks at the Navy Yard instead) or 2) security/protocol concerns (high level official/political target) where a suite like that could support the infrastructure needed for the guest.
I don't seriously think even the head of the IRS can get the govenment to pony up $1500 a night for a suite. That's a Secretary of State/Vice Presidential visit level of lodging.
If those people got suites at that price, they were either tripling up at $500 apeice to get the room, or they were getting the government per-deim price for the event attendance and paying for the upgrade out of pocket to make it a working vacation.

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I just saw on CNN that the IRS spent over 50k in star treck spoof videos [View all] darkangel218 Jun 2013 OP

That's a major problem atreides1 Jun 2013 #1

I thought it was a joke. I still cant believe it darkangel218 Jun 2013 #2

You are getting, successfully mind you, distracted nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #27

Am i? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #38

Given the percentage of the IRS budget used nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #41

They dont collect taxes for themselves, they collect taxes for the whole country! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #47

So how do you think they learn to do the job? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #51

Training in what, star treck encyclopedia? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #58

Sure, you can use that for actuarial terms. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #64

Do you know how many meals for the homeless darkangel218 Jun 2013 #71

You know how well we would be if ther far less efficient nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #74

I understand other agencies waste even more money darkangel218 Jun 2013 #75

Training is not wasted money nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #77

The fact that you think people paying their taxes counts as "income" for the IRS is laughable joeglow3 Jun 2013 #110

THANK YOU Skittles Jun 2013 #155

You know that's what I was thinking. This is not wasted money. Fla Dem Jun 2013 #118

Okay, so you have an excuse for the videos. What about the presidential suites darkangel218 Jun 2013 #121

If that bothers you, how about when the Pentagon lost Rex Jun 2013 #124

This whole IRS seem is just more of the MSM pushing the GOP meme maddezmom Jun 2013 #136

Jaysus...how much did the IRS collect in n those two years? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #140

so, because they COLLECT the money ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #161

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #142

lmao!!! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #167

Well it is in the IRS internal report nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #170

Can you post a link where theyre saying it was 1500/week? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #173

sorry, I do understand the distraction stuff Skittles Jun 2013 #129

Most people in the public and private sector nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #138

there are a lot more economical ways to train Skittles Jun 2013 #147

I am daft. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #148

I'll ask my "Happiness Expert" for advice Skittles Jun 2013 #149

Companies do this regularly. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #150

I've worked for corporations for 33 years Skittles Jun 2013 #151

Have a good day nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #152

LOLOL Skittles Jun 2013 #154

she hates that the real world doesn't jibe with her view ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #163

and they have to answer for it ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #162

We're voting on cutting food stamps and the president wants to raise drug copays Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #168

it's funny how some here can justify $1500 per night for lodging for federal employee training DrDan Jun 2013 #85

THANK YOU Skittles Jun 2013 #156

We deregulated everything in the 90's. Everyone gets away with everything now. Initech Jun 2013 #105

I can't believe it either. You should get a better film for $50k. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2013 #125

They should have just showed them the Jim Carrey thing on Youtube Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #169

It's a problem, but not a major one... Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #24

DEA, FBI not to mention the secret CIA budgets maddezmom Jun 2013 #39

But it's AOK for Walmart to spend $50 million on its shareholder meeting? sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #3

Walmart is a private company, correct me if im wrong. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #5

Yes we are shawn703 Jun 2013 #7

Okay, i didnt know that darkangel218 Jun 2013 #10

Yes, taxpayers certainly are. Recent study has each super-center costing sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #9

Thanks, i wasnt aware of that. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #12

Yup, every day of the week nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #26

Yes we are! To the tune of 4 Trillion, 6 Million, 800 Thousand per year to American taxpayers Fla Dem Jun 2013 #116

Think you need to check your math. 1KansasDem Jun 2013 #145

Contrast $50k with how much money the DEA has wasted over the years. tridim Jun 2013 #4

how about 50 million? That's what the IRS spent on employee conferences in 3 years cali Jun 2013 #20

No 50 million is not "a real problem." gcomeau Jun 2013 #29

The president of the U.S. thinks it's a problem cali Jun 2013 #36

He's politically obligated to say so... gcomeau Jun 2013 #87

Of course it's wasteful pecwae Jun 2013 #159

Most companies don't hold conferences every 5 days. joeglow3 Jun 2013 #111

Most companies don't have... gcomeau Jun 2013 #115

I am a tax CPA and worked 10 years in Big 4 joeglow3 Jun 2013 #153

$163 per IRS employee per year CreekDog Jun 2013 #46

Exactly. Not unreasonable at all. -nt gcomeau Jun 2013 #88

suites for $1500 per night? DrDan Jun 2013 #108

Government only pays per-deim - maybe up to $300/$350 a night. Employee pays the rest. haele Jun 2013 #114

thanks - sure hope that is correct and taxpayers did not pay that excessive rate DrDan Jun 2013 #132

Depending on how many occupied it FloridaJudy Jun 2013 #134

Talked to the 8 agents on site here joeglow3 Jun 2013 #113

Yes, but the DEA isn't investigating the teabaggers siligut Jun 2013 #40

you damn right, when will CNN plaster THAT all over a top story? n/t alp227 Jun 2013 #158

As maddening as it is, I will be it isn't out of line with any other fed agency. maddezmom Jun 2013 #6

Even if thats the case, there needs to be some sort of investigation darkangel218 Jun 2013 #8

The car thief is working that one already SoCalDem Jun 2013 #11

It really shouldnt be a game. Its real money who sometimes darkangel218 Jun 2013 #15

Producing training videos is not wasting money. Fla Dem Jun 2013 #119

Umm.. and how a star trek spoof is training? i fail to see it. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #120

OK then. Put a stop to this nonsense in *every* Federal agency. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #21

Totally agree maddezmom Jun 2013 #23

Careful. Criticizing this stuff here can get you called a "Teabagger", Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #13

Are you being serious?? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #16

Check out the link. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #17

Okay, thanks darkangel218 Jun 2013 #18

The problem is that this is nothing new and it is now just a convenient tool of the GOP siligut Jun 2013 #44

then it is a "tool" that WE should remove DrDan Jun 2013 #109

Well, I for one have had it with all the trollery trolling lately. I'm going to tell it like it is. Occulus Jun 2013 #133

Some people are easily influenced by TV siligut Jun 2013 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jun 2013 #139

. Son of Gob Jun 2013 #144

I agree Notafraidtoo Jun 2013 #157

That's the last gasp when they are losing the argument. I've seen it many times here on DU. SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #28

Public sector workplaces are just like other workplaces SoCalDem Jun 2013 #14

Give them a fair salary, decent benefits, and job security. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #19

I agree that it's nonsensical, but there is a LONG tradition of it SoCalDem Jun 2013 #22

I won't tell you what part of the government I work for, but I can tell you with certainty that we SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #31

we haven't had that shit in YEARS Skittles Jun 2013 #130

What is the percentage of their total budget nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #25

So what *training value* did the Star Trek video have? In my view, Zero. (nt) SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #34

Have you seen it? emulatorloo Jun 2013 #126

Yes, I have. It's on Youtube if you'd like to see it. I will repeat my assertion, SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #143

As if anyone who works in an office would ever agree to Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #30

I don't know how much they spent on it but it looks like the dumbest video in all of creation. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #32

Minimal, it's a training video nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #43

As Issa loves to do. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #56

Well, if CNN is reporting that Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 #33

Who cares whos reporting it, its obviously true. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #35

Anything said about the IRS has to be true Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 #37

And even if it's overblown, it's newsworthy and a bullshit expense. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #59

They dont get to me :) darkangel218 Jun 2013 #63

IBSD CreekDog Jun 2013 #42

It's a very nice day outside, CreekDog.... NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #45

as soon as you apologize to Robb for telling him to F- off and for calling him a dick CreekDog Jun 2013 #49

Oh never mind. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #54

You called him one in your profile and are now trying to make it go away CreekDog Jun 2013 #60

Please disregard... NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #68

HTLML? NealK Jun 2013 #99

He just send me a private email asking me why do i alwats self delete darkangel218 Jun 2013 #50

and you said you don't self delete that much CreekDog Jun 2013 #52

I said i self delete private posts. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #53

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #57

Lol, the weather is beautiful outside, CreekDog. Go for a stroll :) darkangel218 Jun 2013 #61

I just said IBSD CreekDog Jun 2013 #62

Take it with the administrators then. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #66

Yeah, me too. NealK Jun 2013 #100

What the hell?? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #103

Wait, you were being sarcastic darkangel218 Jun 2013 #104

It's Monday morning, this won't be a morning-after surprise siligut Jun 2013 #48

So you are saying we shouldnt believe the IRS spendings darkangel218 Jun 2013 #55

You are missing that all organizations misspend siligut Jun 2013 #84

So they all need to stop doing it. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #86

Well, just get all those other organizations to rile the teabagger Kochs siligut Jun 2013 #89

What does the IRS abusing their funding have to do with the Kochs brothers? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #91

Stop watching CNN, you are reacting exactly how they want you to siligut Jun 2013 #93

I agree the Kochs are more of a problem, but there is that much we can do about that darkangel218 Jun 2013 #94

I agree, telling someone who drinks and gambles their paycheck not to worry is dumb siligut Jun 2013 #95

I have not one bit of intent to demonize IRS. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #97

Good, we agree siligut Jun 2013 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jun 2013 #65

Perfect maddezmom Jun 2013 #69

BaZingA! HangOnKids Jun 2013 #112

I think it's old news but I'd be pissed if my blood center was doing that. As a not for profit brewens Jun 2013 #67

and how many millions will Congress spend investigating this? Enrique Jun 2013 #70

If they hadnt overspent there wouldnt be an investigation, would it darkangel218 Jun 2013 #72

If they didn't go over budget they didn't overspend maddezmom Jun 2013 #76

I swear i didnt even know about this until few hours ago from CNN darkangel218 Jun 2013 #80

Yes, yes there is nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #78

you have much more faith in this Worst Congress Ever than I do Enrique Jun 2013 #79

Okay, i dont blindly endorse CNN or any other news outlet darkangel218 Jun 2013 #82

To go where no tax has gone before. nt William769 Jun 2013 #73

It's a five-year mission, I'm told. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #141

I worked for a major corporation who would do videos for conferences and such, but they never Lint Head Jun 2013 #81

Republicans: We're scamming the IRS for tax free status? Well look wat the IRS Does! librechik Jun 2013 #83

I would venture to say all Gov. Agencies Tippy Jun 2013 #90

I had no problems with the lunch sing along team exercises they showed before - haele Jun 2013 #92

...and they turned me into a newt! n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #96

...okay, we did the nose.(n/t) Iggo Jun 2013 #107

What is a star treck? NealK Jun 2013 #101

Where did this mentality come from? ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #102

DU scoops CNN by 10 weeks. Iggo Jun 2013 #106

Yup, just more proof that CNN is continuing to carry the water for the GOP and Issa maddezmom Jun 2013 #117

Well, is the first i heard it. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #122

Why not? That's why God invented the internets. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #127

Yeah, but CNN does. Iggo Jun 2013 #160

"sold" it to me? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #164

No. Iggo Jun 2013 #165

LOL! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #166

Please tell me that's where the Jedi Mind Meld came from. n/t hootinholler Jun 2013 #123

IM OUTRAGED! PISSED! MAD AS HELL! DJ13 Jun 2013 #128

lol! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #131

That's one of my all time favorite lines from a movie ... Squirrel !! (nt) SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #146

how much does a luxury box cost at a major league stadium???? dembotoz Jun 2013 #137

And this is the truth on this so called scandal. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #171

Read this: darkangel218 Jun 2013 #174

They should have spent that 50k investigating and prosecuting T-bagger groups. Erose999 Jun 2013 #172